Comments on: Veterans for Peace Disrupt Veteran’s Day Ceremony in Boston

By: John

John — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:08:10 +0000

I am a U.S. Army Veteran and I witnessed the brave veterans getting arrested doing nothing but standing silently. One man was assaulted in front of the Boston Police officers and they allowed this man to go.Assault is a crime standing silently on public property is not. This is American people and as veterans we served to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. You should all be outraged that these brave veterans were arrested for holding up to the oath they took. Those of you who believe they should not be allowed to march in the parade with other veterans and to stand silently do not believe in the Constitution. Why should I be surprised because Bush and Cheney don;t think they need to obey the Constitution either.

Its a sad day for America…

By: mamapajamas

mamapajamas — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:23:06 +0000

Thank you for your thanks .

Whenever you find yourself wondering if you should say something or not, just remember that the Vietnam Veterans Against the War were also veterans. But they were also bold-faced liars who spread the propaganda that our troops in Vietnam were murdering civilians, raping women, killing kids, torturing prisoners, etc etc etc. When the military started investigating these charges, not a single one held water. Entirely too many people STILL believe that crap. The one and only “atrocity” that ever held up under investigation was My Lai, and it was the Army that discovered and filed those charges, not war protesters.

The ol’ coots in the above photo look to me like they could be old VVAW members. They’re about the right age. I have no truck with them, even though they’re my contemporaries.

I’ll repeat… they have the right to protest all they want, but they have no special right be protected from criticism.

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:43:26 +0000

mamapajamas, thanks for your service. I do feel bad for criticizing them though. If there was ever a group that deserves to protest anything, it is this group. However I think that they are so off base here that I can’t help but criticize them.

By: mamapajamas

mamapajamas — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:14:41 +0000

A clarification to my previous comment:

Do these veterans, even if wrong, have the right to demonstrate and express their opinion?

Yes.

Are they somehow sacrosanct and can not be criticized for being wrong?

No.

By: mamapajamas

mamapajamas — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:12:58 +0000

I’m a veteran who isn’t ambivalent about this at all. This is dead wrong.

The reason I rationalize it that way is because there seems to be a faction in this country who are trying to divide history into “good” wars and “bad” wars. For instance, WWII is a “good” war because the Nazis were trying to take over everything. Vietnam and Iraq are “bad” wars because the causes were not clearly defined, and because of the civilian deaths.

I’ll go along somewhat with the “defined causes” (although the news media is primarily responsible for the confusion), but the civilian deaths thing makes WWII the worst war of all, given that hundreds of thousands of civilians died in the carpet bombing of Dresden alone. But WWII is a “good” war. That’s where the logic breaks down.

My objection to them is that they don’t seem to know what they’re talking about. War is neither “good” nor “bad”. It is simply something that has to be done when diplomacy breaks down (and the diplomacy on Iraq broke down 10 years before the war started).

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:57:26 +0000

I am torn about this as well. There is nobody in this world that I respect more than veterans, and when I see this it makes me sad. These are people that did fight for this right, and I respect them for that, but I just wish they wouldn’t politicize this day, a day meant to honor them.

By: arclightzero

arclightzero — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:47:45 +0000

It is very sad. As a veteran I’m not entirely sure how I feel about this. It is very maddening that they are using veteran’s day as an excuse to pull this sort of crap. I don’t care if they are vets, it pisses off the rest of us.

By: Mary PeteccaBeigh

Mary PeteccaBeigh — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:08:28 +0000

I believe in freedom of speech. But I also feel groups like code pink go too far with it. I think it is a disgrace that they protest at a ceremony or at a soldiers funeral. They sream and yell like a bunch of idiots. They do not have any respect for the people fighting and for the families who have lost their loved one. I feel it should be against the law. They should NOT be able to get away with doing this. If they want to protest, go to the White and scream in front all you want. But to do this I have to say, that I am ashamed to call them Americans.

By: Tom Baxter

Tom Baxter — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:25:05 +0000

It’s good to have an eyewitness who exposes the lies of the liberal, anti American, terrorist supporting media.
The media said the traitors stood unspeaking with their gags in their mouth.
A DAMN LIE.
Just as the lie that victory is ours in Iraq and Afghanistan.