Comments on: Video: Did Ron Paul Call Mike Huckabee a Fascist?

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[...] Ron Paul came very close to calling Mike Huckabee a fascist, but in case you forgot this little fact here is the [...]

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:22:32 +0000

No problem.

By: Sukrit Sabhlok

Sukrit Sabhlok — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:41:15 +0000

I didn’t read that — apologies.

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:37:42 +0000

That quote of mine you referenced above was part of my comment to W.E. Messamore’s comment. W.E. Messamore said he thought it wasn’t unfair to call all GOP members fascists. I was not saying Ron Paul called all GOP members fascists, I was saying W.E. Messamore was wrong by saying that all GOP members could be considered fascists.

By: Sukrit Sabhlok

Sukrit Sabhlok — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:23:37 +0000

I do think it is unfair to call a majority of the GOP fascists

So, first you say that Ron Paul called Mike Huckabee ‘fascist’. Now you’re arbitrarily extending that to mean that he called the whole GOP ‘fascist’? Until you stop misrepresenting Paul’s views there’s no way to get to the bottom of this.

In the interests of fair and balanced reportage, you may also wish to point your readers to this video where Dr Paul clearly states he did not intend to call Huckabee a fascist:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3p6xJJsmypg

Ron Paul goes straight to the intellectual level in any discussion. Unfortunately, some people not well versed in political theory interpreted his statement literally, rather than as a general warning against losing the separation of Church and State.

By: ang

ang — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:42:54 +0000

btw. huckabee said ” paul is dead paul is dead paul is dead ” why? to make a witty joke? that’s not even funny. that’s fucked up.

By: ang

ang — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 20:39:20 +0000

look up the definition of fascism.
look at america.
draw educated conclusions.
look up the definition of socialism and communism.
look at america.
draw educated conclusions.

we are fascist.
we are communist. how? fascism and communism are one and the same. stripping rights from individuals.

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:13:44 +0000

I understand your point, but I do think it is unfair to call a majority of the GOP fascists. I do think that Huckabee, and I am not a supporter, has gone overboard on his religion. He saw that he was making strides with it in Iowa, and decided to keep pushing it as a way to get ahead in the polls, and I do have a problem with that. I also have a problem with voters who would vote for someone just because of his religion, I will cast my vote based on the issues, and I believe most Republicans will do the same. I know here in New Hampshire, religion never plays a role in the election.
I guess I just have a problem with the term because it is thrown around by the left very liberally.

By: W. E. Messamore

W. E. Messamore — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:29:24 +0000

mpinkeyes, I think Chris’ comments pretty fairly represent my views so I’d like to answer the question you asked him:

I am not afraid of religion at all, and happen to be very religious myself. What I am afraid of is fascism, and both Ron Paul and Chris were pointing out with their quotations that fascism often comes pretending to be very devout so as to create an aura of righteousness for its actions.

So at least my criticism and concern here is not with religion, but with fascists using religion to advance their cause. I also don’t necessarily think it’s unfair to characterize the majority of the GOP (Huckabee included) as fascist.

Many Republicans still talk in terms of freedom and limited government, but I think such talk is all too often insincere. Under Bush and the Republican Congress, government grew more radically in size and power than under Clinton.

Another concern I have is not the effect of the church on government, but the effect of the government on the church. When the church takes the reigns of political power, it usually goes badly for the church and does injury to the Gospel.

I’d prefer that clergymen more or less stayed away from electoral politics altogether and focused on their divinely-ordained vocation, the ministry of spiritual matters. I’d prefer that Huckabee were running for President of the Southern Baptist Convention rather than the US Federal Government.

By: mpinkeyes

mpinkeyes — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:57:09 +0000

I have to be honest, I think that Huckabee is overplaying this Christian angle also. I find the whole Mitt, Huckabee fued to be a non story and I wish they would get back on the issues. I do find it strange that he seems to be leading in Iowa just because of his religion. If conservative voters looked at his record instead of his religion they may not vote for him. He is trying to out-Christian Mitt and I do find it sort of repulsive.

Gram Andrews, you had this one correct from the beginning, as did Dee. Both of you had very early reservations about him, and they seem to be coming true.