An Arizona House bill would require Barack Obama to show his birth certificate in 2012
I am not a birther, although I do believe that there is a very good chance that Barack Obama was not born in the United States. I feel that even if it is true that he was not born here, there is no way that his election will ever be overturned– he will never be removed from office on these grounds– and there are more important issues facing this country now that he is elected that we must focus our attention on. To focus on the Barack Obama’s birth is to take away from what he is actually doing to the United States of America and I feel that our full attention should be on stopping his agenda.
Having said that, the Arizona House has just added an amendment to a bill that would require all presidential candidates in the future to provide a birth certificate when filing their papers to run for president to prove that they meet the constitutional requirements to be president before they can be placed on the ballot in Arizona.
There are only two requirements in the constitution for a person to be eligible to become president– you must be 35 years old and be a natural born citizen. Neither of these requirements has ever before been an issue with a candidate running for the presidency but I still find it incredible that a person does not have to prove their eligibility when they file their candidacy papers.
While this legislation is obviously aimed at Barack Obama, it seems to be common sense to me that a person who is seeking the highest office in the land would have to prove they meet the constitutional requirements for that office
I believe that not only should Arizona pass this legislation, but all states should require that a person prove he or she is eligible for the office that they seek, whether they are running for the House, Senate, or president.
It seems like common sense to me, but then again, many states don’t require a person prove they are who they say they are before they enter the ballot booth.
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I totally agree with you Steve!
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It’s hard to believe that something like this is not already required in all states.
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I like this law and still have doubts about Obama’s qualifications to hold office. Every state should pass such a law. It is the states, after all that determine who is on the ballot.
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I agree, this should be a law in all states.
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All you Arizona Birthers are just racists going by another name. You’re so desperate to call Obama a nigger that you can’t stand it. You hate the fact that a black was elected United States President and you’ll do anything you think you can to try and discredit him. Your arguments are nothing but a bag of lies and bullshit. Your phony patriotism is sickening. Why not cut the crap and just put the sheet on your head? Either that, or just shut up and get back in your trailer parks, losers!
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Wow! I don’t think we could have asked for a better example of Leftie ignorance, self-delusion, and unsupported accusation. Well done!
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Yes, his comment says more about him than we ever could. This is typical from the far left, he did not bother to debate the question but instead hurled insults.
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Well done Hey You, well done, you make the left look even MORE useless than they already are…
ANY, I repeat, ANY POTUS that can’t, or won’t produce a real, certified birth certificate, ON DEMAND, is not worthy of the office, and likely, not a legal office holder…
But, you’d never understand that would you??
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He deserves kudos for proving what many of us think about the left, that they are not as tolerant as they claim to be. Instead of debating what I wrote he decided to call me names, this is typical from someone who has no argument to make.
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I disagree about POTUS “producing a birth certificate on demand.” What, the dude’s got to carry a copy around in his wallet to show to every disgruntled citizen who wants to make a point?
“Natural born citizen” should be defined – there’s no real working definition, just a common assumption about what it means. We assume it to mean someone born on US territory, but perhaps the Framers also meant to include people born on foreign soil to American parents. Whatever – let’s get a law written that nails that down.
That having been done, it then (as has been so ably pointed out by so many here already) falls to the states to ensure that anyone on the ballot for that (or any other) office meets the legal qualifications.
POTUS should never be required to produce papers like some refugee in wartime Berlin. But Candidate Smith should be able to prove to the satisfaction of fifty Boards of election that he meets the Constitutional requirements of the office.
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This dude hasn’t kept up with the narrative. We’re now more educated and wealthier, making us the “evil rich.” I know it’s hard, as the unsubstantiated claims keep changing, but at least make an effort…mmkay?
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You are a complete racist idiot!!! If I had said the “n” word the world would be up in arms. You hide behind color. Yes the so called President is black! Whooooo Get over it, you forget that millions of people that voted for him were white! Now we find out that he is a far left liar and we have every reason to question him without being called a racist. Get over yourself asshole and stop hiding behind the race card. The world is over it already!
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It is interesting that the peson who felt the uncontrollable urge to throw out the “N” word was a liberal. You can tell he doesn’t have an argument because he had to resort to calling us names instead of debating the issue.
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When this red herring issue was first raised, my initial response was that Mr. Obama had satisfied the Secretaries of State (or whomever) of each of the fifty states. I was shocked to learn that no state had any requirement that candidates prove their bona fides.
Mr. Obama, though, will produce the document that was produced early in the controversy – the same document each of us produces to get married or get a passport – the certification from the state or county department of vital records, basically the thing that says “According to our records, so-and-so was born in this place at this time on this date.”
And why not? I think the man was born in Hawaii and this has all been a tempest in a teapot.
But good on Arizona for requiring that candidates show their credentials. Now let’s see Iowa and New Hampsire require oit of primary candidates.
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There are more important issues to focus on, but I think this is a good law and all states should have something like it.
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He hasn’t revealed it because there are a ton of people out there wasting time and considerable effort on proving the whole “birther” argument. Those efforts would better be spent fighting Obama’s agenda. So, from his point of view, why should he show the certificate?
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That is a great point, Barack Obama could be pruposely letting this idea that he is not a citizen fester because there are many people who are focused on it and not the real issues. I hadn’t thought of that before.
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Steve, it appears that all that “heavy thinking” has left our minds in sync again. When I read your opening paragraph, it was almost like reading the post that I’ve been working on for a few days. ;-} Ah, well…
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I guess I failed at cutting down on the “heavy thinking” huh? I will be interested to read the post you are referring to.
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yeah whether BO was born here never really bothered me so much as the revelation that politicians don’t have to produce their birth cert when running for President. The rest of us lowlifes can’t even get a passport without one, for pity’s sake!
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It would seem like common sense that a person should have to prove that they are eligible to run for the office they seek.
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Well, the President presumably already had a passport before running for office, and so satisfied the State Department with his bona fides. Still, as others have said, it was a shocking revelation that there’s no requirement, apparently, that candidates for the office be required to validate their Constitutional bona fides.
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That is the part that bother me the most, the fact that there is no proof needed to show that you meet the qualifications to be eligible.
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I am sure that even if BO was found to have been born in another country or if his constitutionality was in question we have seen enough to know the Constitution would not be used to impeach him after being duly elected.
Down the road however, after he is out of office his signature could very well be brought into question.
Especially if We the People gain back power over a government bent on cronyism.
Every bill he signs into law could very well be over turned on the basis of the Constitution.
The BO supporters will always project their hatred toward their opposition. It only maters what they think not what others think. That works for now but if we rip power from their hands and take back our country look out.
On another note I’m glad you made the decision to keep Hey You’s tripe.
If a conservative did that on one of their sites they would ban him and delete his words.
Like Rush said today the left is scared to have their world view challenged.
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That is a very interesting take on this issue that I hadn’t thought about. If Obama’s was ever found not to be a legitimate president down the road, I wonder if everything that he passed could be considered null and void. That would be a fortunate turn of events. We know that he is there for the duration, even if it was proven that he wsa not born here, the disdain that the Democrats have shown to the constitution leads us to believe they would never take the steps to remove Obama. That is why I think we are better off fighting the policies and not the “birther” aspect.
I have a very liberal comment policy– as long as the comment is in english and does not link to a website that is selling something, I will leave it up. In Hey You’s case, he proved in that one comment something that I have written about the left on a few occasions– the fact that while liberals claim to be all inclusive, they do not tolerate diversity of opinions. Hey You did more to hurt his cause than help it.
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I have to agree with you 100% Steve. The birther issue is a distraction. Putting this on the ballot in even one state would put an end to this “birther” nonsense. It doesn’t matter if Obama is the Dem of the now, or someone else, we’d still be fighting the same failed, totalitarian ideas. Forget Barak Obama, pay attention to the ideas and the agenda.
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We need to stay focused on the issues because the “birther” angle is never going to lead anywhere. We need to fight this man on his positions and delay as much of them as possible until November.
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I agree that it is unfortunately a waste of time. Obama will never, ever, be impeached for any reason, whatsoever, and we all know it.
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That’s not what the proposed law says. HB 2441 says that the candidate’s party “shall append to the affadavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen” and that “if the Secretary of State has readsonable cause to believe that the Candidate does not meet the citizenship, age, and residency requirements prescribed by law, the Secretary of State shall not place that candidate’s name on the ballot”.
There’s no specific requirement about birth certificates either original, duplicate, short form, or whatever. Obama’s existing Certification of Live Birth would be sufficient, if the Secretary of State decides that it’s sufficient.
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Nice point, and in its application I’m certain that the birthers will be no less frustrated than they are now.
I especially enjoyed how Arizona sidestepped the problem of “natural born citizen” having no clearcut legal definition. They’ll leave it all in the hands of one official, and trust to that person’s judgment.
The conspiracists are always entertaining. I know one fellow who insists that because, during the Civil War, the US Senate adjourned sine die, no action taken by that body ever since is legal – it dissolved itself for all time, he claims.
He also claims that if the US flag in a civilian courtroom has a gold fringe, the courtroom is magically transformed into a court-martial, the rules of evidence change to those set forth by UCMJ, etc., etc. And it’s all a conspiracy on the part of the government to deprive epople of their rights.
Anyway, have a wonderful week!
And may God bless us all!
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This must never happen again (a usurper in the office of the President).
I’m still wondering HOW did this relatively “unknown” and person of average means (prior to the limelight), manage to come to power to rule the most powerful country in the world?
Obviously, there were “groups” or people with a lot of money and power, who paved the way for this “community organizer”.
If someone would dig deep, and research his past, it would be clear that there was help in high places for giving him this power.
Basically, I’m saying, there would have been no way in hell that this guy would have ever been elected.
It would be like me becoming the President….a nobody.
Talk about a great conspiracy story.
The problem is….all his personal records are under lock and key….hmmmm, wonder why.
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I thought this was a new post, but I see it’s a few months old, and I already responded.
Here’s my take today – it’s a good idea, and it should already have been the law, if not in every state, at least in the first few primary states.
Also – Obama the candidate would have produced the exact same documentation that he produced when this birther nonsense first started gaining traction, and it would have been accepted in every state – see the Constitution, Article IV, Section 1. As soon as Hawaii publicly asserts the validity of the record in question, other states – and certainly not conspiracy nuts therein – cannot legally challenge them.
A glorious week to a,, and may God bless us all!
The Georgia Yankee
PS – I visited Savannah last week – beautiful city!
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