New Hampshire Senate overrides “Castle Doctrine” expansion veto; upholds voter ID veto
Earlier today the New Hampshire Senate held a couple of veto override votes; one on an expansion of the “Castle Doctrine” and the other a voter ID bill.
SB88 expands the “Castle Doctrine” and gives New Hampshire residents the right to defend themselves with deadly force not only in their homes but also in any place where that person has a legal right to be. It has been dubbed the “Stand Your Ground” bill and today by a vote of 17-7 the State Senate voted to override Governor Lynch’s veto of SB88.
This bill will now head to the State House for a veto override vote in October; the bill passed the House with a veto-proof majority so it seems very likely as if this bill will soon become law in spite of the governor’s veto.
The Senate also voted on a voter ID bill which would require all residents to show a photo ID before they would be allowed to vote. The Senate failed to gain the votes necessary to override the governor’s veto and this bill is now dead.
Needless to say I feel as if we won one today and we lost one today, but the idea of a Voter ID bill may not be dead yet as there is another bill in the House which may address the issues some Senate Republicans had with the bill which was defeated today.
Here is the issue at hand:
Some Republicans said they support the idea of requiring photo ID from voters, but that they oppose the system of provisional ballots that the House added to their bill. A provisional ballot would have been required of anyone who could not present a valid state or federally-issued photo ID card.
Town clerks said the provisional ballots would force extra work on their offices, with longer hours, additional staff, late counting and less ballot secrecy for voters.
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Glad to hear that NH is on the way to overriding the expansion of the Castle Doctrine. I live in Texas and we’ve had that in place now for a few years. We also have in place provisions preventing families of perps killed by their proposed victims from suing those ‘victims’ if the perp was killed in the execution of a crime. I hope that’s a part of the NH Castle Doctrine…
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I am not sure if that is in the bill or not, I’ll have to look into that. We are moving in the right direction though.
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At least Stand Your Ground will become law. This should be the way in every city and every state.
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Absolutely, no person should be punished for defending themselves or their families.
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In Kalifornia the law says you may only use deadly force if you can’t flee.
How’s that for Liberty from scum?
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And once you determine you can’t flee I bet you will have to prove that to the police and maybe to the courts or you will still be prosecuted. Doesn’t sound like liberty to me.
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In Illinois, we can’t conceal and we can’t carry, go figure. We are the last hold out, but with the liberal Democratic government we have, I doubt we will ever pass a law for CC. Even liberal Wisconsin is allowing it now. Of course, we have to have FOID cards here, so they know who owns guns legally….there is the key word, “legally”. It is the ilegally carrying citizens that they should be concerned about, don’t you think????
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In NH we don’t need anything to carry open other than having no felonies in order to purchase a gun, but we need a permit to carry concealed. A simple check of your three references and a background check and you are good to go.
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Good for New Hampshire. Thanks for the clarification on the voter ID issue. I can see why some would have problems with the concept of alternative ballots. Hopefully the new bill will turn out so that the governors veto can be overridden.
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I think the Voter ID bill will be back again once the Republicans get language they can all agree on. At that point the governor’s veto will be meaningless.
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I’m not too informed about the politics in NH, but it sounds likes the governor is out of step with the people. The State Leg. has taken the right step as I see it. Normally, I see little good coming from the various state governments in New England, but maybe the tide has turned. In the recent past most seen to have the old “herd mentality” and trample of individualism.
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The tide has turned in NH, but we have never been as liberal as our neighbors. The governor still remains popular, but I think his star is fading.
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I’ve never understood voter I.D. laws. “Voter fraud” is a rarely-documented, and even more rarely proven, problem, but there’s this huge nationwide response to it – pushed by people who are generally skeptical of state institutions – that essentially compels everyone to get a state-issued identification card. So you’re okay with saying, “Without a card, you’re not a full citizen.” That sounds really state-centric to me, and much scarier than the utterly miniscule, or downright hypothetical effect, that potential “voter fraud” might have on some county election. Basically this is a bogus issue, but it sounds so serious and un-American that anyone with a soapbox can rile people up with it.
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Updike, most people have either a drivers license or an ID if they no longer drive. If you are on public assistance you have to have identification. Is it too much to ask to show some form of ID to vote? I have to show ID’s all the time. In my state, voter fraud is VERY big, there are those that vote numerous times and dead people still on the voter logs. Does that make sense? It has nothing to do with being a “full citizen”, but it does have to do with keeping things legally. As for proving voter fraud, it is hard to do, but not impossible. It would be so much easier to just show an ID. If you have nothing to hide then where is the problem?
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Agreed, you need an ID to do just about anything today, why should voting be different and how do these people make it through daily life without on any way?
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Maybe it is rarely documented and prosecuted is because it is too hard to prove because people don’t have to show IDs.
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