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The Super Committee fails, is anyone really surprised?

November 21, 2011

    The Super Committee announced earlier today that it will fail to reach a deal by the deadline and the triggers which were imposed that were supposed to guarantee that a deal would be struck will most likely be implemented. Is anyone really surprised by this news?

  The Super Committee was destined to fail from the beginning as both sides were so far apart during the debt ceiling debate that a deal seemed a longshot at best, but I feel it was also designed to fail because I do not believe the two sides were as far apart as we were led to believe.

  My theory goes like this: Republicans and Democrats agreed to the terms of a deal during the debt ceiling debate but both sides simply did not have the courage to hold a vote on the deal because of the backlash from their differing constituents, and that deal was exactly the one which would be implemented on the failure of the Super Committee to negotiate a different deal.

  So rather than voting on a deal which would include the gutting of defense, tax hikes, and entitlement cuts the House and the Senate simply punted the issue by placing it in this Super Committee where the deal would go into effect without our “representatives” having to go on record as supporting it. Republicans can now state that they didn’t vote to cut the military or raise taxes, and Democrats can claim they didn’t vote to cut entitlements but the result is the same as if they had. In other words, the fix was in and the plan which nobody actually voted for will go into effect and that was the plan from the very beginning.

  This gives both parties an out with their constituents and allows them to play the blame game as we head into the 2012 election. Both sides felt they could use this to their political advantage and were more concerned about this than with doing what was best for the country. If our elected officials truly thought this was the best way forward they should have voted on it and sold it to the American people, but instead they decided to take the cowardly way out and hide behind this Super Committee.

  Jim at Conservatives on Fire has been predicting the total collapse of the United States economy, and he has predicted that it will happen within two years, and while I had tried to remain optimistic that this wouldn’t be the case it is becoming abundantly clear that neither side has the balls to take the measures necessary to prevent it. And I believe that the recent vote in Ohio shows us that the American people are not ready to make the necessary changes to stave off a total collapse of the United States. While people may claim they want to see government spending cut, the truth is that once they realize that some of those cuts may affect them they are suddenly pro big government.

  So the only remaining question to be asked is this: Once the collapse occurs, who will be there to pick up the pieces? Will it be Barack Obama and his communist sympathizing OWS movement or will it be the Republican party?

  My answer is another question; does it really even matter anymore? We all know that Barack Obama is a big government statist who will use the impending collapse to consolidate even more power in the central government, but the two Republican front-runners–Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich–are big government Republicans.

  Mitt Romney’s flip-flops are legendary while his conservative credentials are in serious doubt, and Newt Gingrich’s debate performances have been spectacular but his past actions and positions–from climate change, to amnesty, to his support for healthcare mandates at one time, to NAFTA, to his opposition of Paul Ryan’s budget, to his support for TARP–leads one to wonder which Newt we will see if he is elected.

  In my opinion, there are only two true conservatives in the Republican field–Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum–and neither have a chance to win the nomination, and there is only one true constitutionalist/libertarian in the race–Ron Paul–and even if he were to win the nomination I don’t see any way he will beat Barack Obama.

  We have been sold out by both the Democrats and the Republicans in the House (who we elected to stop Barack Obama) and at this point I feel that nobody has the best interests of the American people at heart. I have felt more and more lately that the battle is already lost and there really is no point in fighting anymore. Only my pride is keeping me in the battle at this point.

27 Comments leave one →
  1. TexasFred's avatar
    November 21, 2011 8:33 pm

    The only thing that surprises me is the fact that it was allowed to progress as far as it was…

    Our entire Congress is a FAILURE!

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  2. kev07wan's avatar
    November 21, 2011 8:34 pm

    What about Huntsman? Reliably conservative, not overly so, and electable.. why is he forgotten?

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 7:57 am

      I believe he is only in the race to make the other candidates look too radically right wing. He is a plant from the Obama regime.

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        November 24, 2011 8:09 am

        I have also thought that same way about Huntsman. I guess I have not been able to take him seriously.

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  3. LD Jackson's avatar
    LD Jackson permalink
    November 21, 2011 9:01 pm

    I hadn’t thought about the theory that the deal had already been struck and the failure of the super committee was just a way to implement it without having to go on record as voting for it. That’s something to think about

    Don’t give up the fight, Steve. There is too much at stake to quit now.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 7:58 am

      I like to think I am wrong about the Super Committee Larry, but it really did seem as if it was set up to fail and that makes me wonder if it was the plan all along.
      I won’t give up, just a little frustrated lately.

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  4. rjjrdq's avatar
    November 21, 2011 10:21 pm

    My understanding is that the “cuts” don’t go into effect until 2013. That congress will not be bound by the deal this congress made. If we can kick out Obama next year, there’s a sliver-albeit a tiny one, that we can at least whittle down the size of government and pay off some of this debt. That’s a sliver I’ll hang on to for now. But if Obama wins…I don’t think I can wrap my mind around the consequences.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 7:59 am

      Well, at least you provided me with a sliver of hope when I felt there was none left.

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  5. Harrison's avatar
    November 22, 2011 12:06 am

    We need to remember there has not been a Federal budget passed since Obama became president. Epic Fail when you consider Dems controlled Congress until Jan 2011.

    Obama just wanted to blame the GOP and the GOP wanted to use mandatory Dept. of Defense spending cuts to crucify Obama.

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    • Lou222's avatar
      Lou222 permalink
      November 22, 2011 6:47 am

      Doesn’t Paul Ryan have a budget that could be put on the table? I can’t remember what all was in it, but pretty sure it had the cuts that were needed. Then, if the Dems vote it down at least they can quit saying that it is the Republicans fault. At that point the Dems will have to actually DO something other than point the finger.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        November 22, 2011 8:04 am

        Yes he does, but it was ignored and is sitting there as we speak. (Don’t forget that Newt came out against it and called it right wing social engineering.)

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 8:00 am

      It is brazen for the president to blame this on the Republicans when he has failed to pass a budget during his time in office, but I wonder how many people even realize this.

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      • Harrison's avatar
        November 22, 2011 2:04 pm

        I’d think very few people realize this because nobody in the press reports on it.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        November 22, 2011 8:38 pm

        I think you are right about that, I wonder how many people actually know that the president has never signed a budget.

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        November 24, 2011 8:13 am

        The only people that know that are the ones that use alternate information about the news. If you are watching the alphabet channels, you will hear only what they want us to hear. Remember there are those that will NEVER believe that Obama has done anything wrong. I think we just need to put them aside and get the message out to ones that are on the fence about him.

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  6. John Carey's avatar
    November 22, 2011 12:43 am

    Here’s an idea…how about we don’t touch one dime of those things that are permitted by the Constitution of the United States of America and slash all things that are not authorized by the constitution. Once this is done, then we take a look at those things that are constitutionally mandated like funding our military and find savings. I know…I’m sounding like a radical because I actually want our constitution enforced.

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    • Lou222's avatar
      Lou222 permalink
      November 22, 2011 6:50 am

      John, that sounds too “logical”. Surely it would not be that easy? This Congress really doesn’t want to find a way to make things work, they just want to whine about why it won’t. Here is hoping we can finally start voting in some people that have common sense and a love for this country and not just trying to fill their pocketbooks!

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 8:02 am

      John, that is a radical idea! How dare you suggest that the government follow the constitution! Seriously though, did you ever think you would see the day where suggesting constitutional answers to problems would be radical and out of the mainstream?

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      • John Carey's avatar
        November 23, 2011 1:50 am

        This is where the left has taken us Steve. You’re radical if you want our constitution enforce. The left has done a great job painting anyone who desires this state as radical. I never thought I would see the day.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        November 23, 2011 7:22 am

        It is sad John and it is going to take us a long time to get back toward a constitutional government. The constitution has been under attack or just ignored for years and years and we aren’t going to change things overnight. We have a long fight ahead o us.

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  7. bunkerville's avatar
    bunkerville permalink
    November 22, 2011 10:31 am

    So which is better, Gringrich or Romney? Now there is something to grind your teeth on. I am starting to think Romney. At least I dont know how bad he is.. Gingrich is a wolf.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 22, 2011 8:39 pm

      An interesting question, and it appears as if it is going to come down to these two candidates. I don’t see anyone else making a run at it at this point.

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    • lou222's avatar
      lou222 permalink
      November 24, 2011 8:16 am

      B, can’t you come up with someone else? As I stated in another article, I think any one of us here could do a better job at the highest post. At least we know what is going on in the country and can reason things out. I fail to see any common sense in the White House at the moment.

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  8. Reaganite Republican's avatar
    November 22, 2011 2:12 pm

    Is it 2012 yet

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