Barack Obama tells the police they will be safer if they admit they have a problem
Just one day after cautioning Republicans to tone down the divisive rhetoric on the eve of their convention and in the wake of the Baton Rouge shooting Barack Obama was at it again, deriding the police, this time saying the police have to admit they have a problem and if they do so it will make their jobs “a lot safer.”
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“if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there’s a problem and there’s an issue, then that, too, is going to contribute to real solutions. And, as I said yesterday, that is what’s going to ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer. It is in the interest of police officers that their communities trust them and that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated.”
Of course he seems unable to understand that this statement is helping to fuel the anger and make communities less likely to trust the police, but then again perhaps that is his goal. I am not saying that there are no bad cops out there, in fact I understand there are, however maybe it is time for Barack Obama to heed his own advice instead of stoking the flames. It almost sounds as if this is a veiled threat…
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I do not believe it is adding fuel to the flame as much as his statement is trying to confront the issue. Police brutality is a problem, no matter the race. I believe Obama is stating that the issue needs to be confronted, not aggressively, as he clearly clarified shooting police is not justifiable at all.
Acknowledging the issue is something that needs to be done, because as long as a majority acts like the issue is not an issue at all, no changes will be made. That’s just how I received his statement. If no one acknowledges the issue, wouldn’t that make the any of the recipients feel they are in a unsafe/”un-american” environment.?
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I wish I knew exactly which of the many issues that are thrown around we need to “confront”. As Ben Shapiro says, throwing out a general accusation with no specifics is like saying it is raining outside. Raining where? How much? Is it unusual? Is the roof leaking? Are you indoors or outside? If you go to the doctor and say “I don’t feel good”, that tells the doctor nothing.
We have an unbridgeable divide in America right now, and both sides can’t be right. So I have to figure out which is right, and which is wrong, and I would be a fool to pull an answer out of thin air.
So, I look to people with intelligence and experience for answers. When it comes to “the issue”, I side with black Sherif David Clark, black attorney Larry Elder, Harvard economist Mr. Fryer, the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and many, many others .
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Bruce, in response to what you are saying, then what is the issue? There is a problem, just like many of the other problems the United States has. No country to my knowledge, has ever been a perfect one, countries can only work to become better. When people speak up, that is the only time issues are heard of. Why does media never focus on the higher percentage of the population that don’t pay all of their taxes, that is an issue. Illegal immigration is an issue. Big pharma is an issue. If you are able to speak on each of these situations, how hard is it for you to make a compromise out of both? It’s really not hard at all.
How is the issue unbridgeable? I guess that is were I am having a misunderstanding in what you are trying to say. Shooting at police is wrong, that’s a plain and simple answer. Police brutality is also wrong, in some cases it is required by the police to resolve issue, but in some cases the people should still be alive today.
I guess in your mind, this is a political situation, not a social welfare one. It’s sad to see that people really believe that their “one side” is the right one. When it should be the betterment of all people “side” everyone should be one.
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All good points Justin, and that IS my point. There is no “issue” but as you say, a number of important issues, that are constantly dealt with. The problem is that if a group doesn’t like the results, they assume nothing is being done.
I never said “the issue” or any issue is unbridgeable, I said that the divide we have in America right now is unbridgeable. There is no middle ground between me and someone who chants “pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon”, none.
And yes, in America, everything is a political situation. I believe I have a good and strong moral compass, but that isn’t how decisions are made. We have a representative process, and courts and that is what we abide by.
And yes, I really do believe that the side that says shooting cops is never acceptable is the right one and that the side that disagrees with that is wrong. I believe in small government, and that supporters of big government are wrong. But under our system, this is resolved in a political system.
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To speak on your first point, I understand what you are saying, but as to the forefront as the media had made this issue to be, would you as a president not at least acknowledge it? Personally, listening to the bbc news in my car, it’s actually all I’ve even been hearing about. I believe that the African American population needs to keep it peaceful, but are they really wrong for making noise about the issue? In police brutalities, African Americans (12% of U.S. Population) only follow one other group(Caucasian population, 63%of U.S. Population). When your race is dying the highest per capita in these kinds of situations, wouldn’t you want to confront that issue, especially when the people involved are citizens and the people suppose to be here to protect them. I’m not excusing any of the people’s actions that are dead, but in some of the cases, taking someone’s life is not always the only option, especially when they are unarmed. Police have a very hard job, but it’s what they signed up for.
If you truly believe there is no middle ground, then what am I speaking on? I can see anger hidden underneath the stigma of both sides. It’s crazy that people have turned this situation into Republicans being the police party and the Democratic Party representing the recipients of avoidable police brutality. I think that thinking this way is pretty sad. Why can’t both sides agree that police brutality is wrong, yet still be pro police? Is that just to much to ask out of the U.S. Population?
From what you are saying, is it impossible that I whole heartedly respect the police and everything they do, but do not condone the actions of the officers in some police brutality cases?
One more point I thought I might add, as well as your home town court might represent you, that is not the case through out all of America. The people “representing” don’t always represent you or even have your same interest in mind. I believe in the system, same as you, but it has its flaws. The United States government has never been a perfect thing and never will.
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Again, you bring up a number of important points, and as you say, they fill the news these days. But because the news chooses to focus on an issue doesn’t make it factual, important, or even correct. I agree with Bernie Goldberg that the news has an agenda, and is very biased toward the left.
Regardless, yes Justin, the President should acknowledge the fact that the press is making a very big issue out of a small number of deaths, while they ignore a very LARGE number of deaths. 3,470 black lives murdered in Chicago by other black lives during Obamas’ term in office.That is just 1 city!!!!! Where is the press? Where is the President? Where is BLM?
I was told long ago that there are 3 types of lies. Small lies, big lies, and statistics. Everyone has become a statistician all of a sudden. Look at this statistic Justin. 97% of thresher (yes the farm machine) injuries are to whites but only 63% of the population is white. We (whites) have far more than our “fair share” of thresher injuries. What does this mean? NOTHING!!!! It just means most farmers are white. So what??? PLEASE look at the statistics compiled by Harvard economist Mr. Fryer, the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard.
Yes, “police brutality is wrong” and always has been. But now the term “police brutality” has been redefined, and is applied to anything the media wants it to be. Resisting arrest results in very harsh treatment, regardless of color.
You’re right Justin, polarization is no good for the people or the country. The leftist agenda depends on dividing people by race, gender and class. Ronald Regan had the ability to get all people to join together to look for a greater good.
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Sheriff David Clarke was on CNN where he would not bend to Don Lemon’s leftist message of peace and coming together for the country, Rather he said “My message has been clear from two years ago – this anti-cop sentiment from this hateful ideology called ‘Black Lives Matter’ has fueled this rage against the American police”
A lot of the problems in law enforcement occur in communities that are controlled by Democratic Mayors and Govenors. It is as if they want the system to fail, so they can get more Federal money and mandates. Maybe if the Feds would get out of local law enforcement and demilitarize the police departments. States need to do their own investigation of police shootings rather than using the DOJ. The MSM is too quick to report stories where they don’t have all the facts.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/milwaukee-sheriff-lashes-out-cnns-civility-black-lives-matters-hateful-ideology
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See, when people choose to base a whole group off of a “segment” that is were people blind themselves.
It’s crazy, people are so easy to say, no not all gun owners shoot people. No not all this and that. But in situations like these, people like to base a whole group off of a “segment”. A basic college education would allow people to understand generalization is a very basic and uneducated human function.
By the way, I am a Democrat but my logic is more moderate base. So none of the false data slinging is needed.
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Bore-ack is the problem & the many Czars, commies and anti-americans in the administration – the trickle down effect into all systems of the gov. into the police dept.s – nothing new. The admins. like to hire those ‘attitude personality’ police force to do their bidding – DHS (the alphabet agencies). You’re right Steve, he’s using it as another platform to cause division, knowing a house divided can’t stand. May it come back around to bit them!
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I think if this keeps on happening that it will come back to bite him in the end. I think Trump will be helped if this continues because people are going to look outside the box, we have already seen it happen with the Republicans and it could continue.
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They all need to be assessed & processed – re-educated and un-brainwashed. If only the sin gene were able to be extracted!
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It has taken decades to brainwash the people and it will take decades to un-brainwash the people! Sadly sin is being normalized.
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Remember the result of the 1968 Chicago primaries?
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There is indeed a problem. Justified or not, the minority communities have a bias that they are being targeted and treated unfairly. Bias is a difficult thing to overcome and the problem is not going to be resolved until all parties start talking and addressing the underlying cause. In a sense, Obama has a point but based on what I’ve seen, he doesn’t go far enough.
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I believe one thing that people on both sides need to understand is that, these issues do occur, that’s why something needs to be done to try and fix it. It’s not a black thing, it’s not a white thing, it’s the issue that needs to be confronted thing.
I totally get what you mean Obama needs to go farther, being an African American/ Latino, I understand why he doesn’t. When Obama and people of color such as myself speak on issues that involve skin color, considering the past, we try to stay as far away as sounding “preachy” as possible. I don’t know what it is, (past experience) but I tend to not tell people bad racial encounters I have been through. I’ve found that people seem to think of others more as naggers when people talk about past bad experiences like those. I think Obama is so short because people are so quick to criticize him for saying too much. Remember when he was in Cuba, people were getting mad saying he should have been at Nancy Reagans funeral. Every president is criticized, but with him being the first African American president and all, I think he just feels like he is walking on eggshells in this situation. I know I sure would.
Obama blatantly states that there is no excuse to shoot at police, I don’t get why so many people are eager to say that he supports anyone doing so. It’s like they aren’t even taking him for what he is actually saying.
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Reblogged this on Freedom Is Just Another Word… and commented:
Maybe if Obama would admit he is a problem……
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Thank you.
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What is happening is by Design. President Obama said when he first became elected that he intended to fundamentally change this country. Divide and conquer folks. Good Old Chicago politics. Rules for Radicals. On the one hand Obama tells a group early in his presidency that he wants a domestic security force as strong as the military. He would like to federalize the nation’s police force. All this is the militarization of the police.
At the same time he makes comments intended to rouse people’s anger towards the police. This kind of talk will get young people killed. This kind of talk will cause them to do foolish things. Then the federal government will have to ride to the rescue. And tyranny will be legitimized.
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Deborah, you are right about Oblabla, of course. But you made a small but monumental error. Oblabla said he wanted to fundamentally TRANSFORM America. Any child knows “transformers” are things that are completely different afterwards. An airplane becomes a great big monster. Oblabla knew exactly what he was saying.
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Good point.
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Yes he did, Bruce…but most people were so taken in by him being the first “Black President” (other than Bill Clinton), that they forgot to actually listen to what he said….HUGE MISTAKE there!
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Or even worse Lou, they heard what he said and they agree with it! But I think you are right, they didn’t really care what he was saying.
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I think you are spot on about this being intentional. This is the Hegelian Dialectic in action. Create or take advantage of a crisis/control both sides of it/implement the predetermined “solution.”
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Watching Trump speech at my father’s suggestion and one thing I’m so happy about! The truth is finally being spoken on National Television! Today’s version of shout it from the rooftops! That’s why I support this man blonde comb over, sprayed on tan, eye make up, the propensity to say marvelous!
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Meant to say: That’s why I support this man despite blonde comb over, sprayed on tan, eye make up, the propensity to say marvelous! Lol!
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Funny how one word can change the whole mean of a sentence sometimes!
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