Skip to content

Second amendment victory in the New Hampshire House

January 14, 2010

Another mobile post, hopefully the provided link works and hopefully I will get the computer back tomorrow or Saturday.

Last week the New Hampshire state legislature voted to ban bringing guns into any state building. This bill has been controversial with the people; they seem equally divided on this issue. Many see this as an infringement on the second amendment. And I agree. This legislation was passed after an incident last year when a states rights bill was being debated; many supporters of the bill showed up to the debate openly carrying their weapons. It was a peaceful demonstration but is so spooked many politicians that they decided to institute a weapons ban. These people obeyed the law; they did nothing wrong, yet the state legislature targeted them.

On the heals of that second amendment defeat comes word of a second amendment victory; the New Hampshire House passed HB 160by a vote of 189-166. This bill revises New Hampshire self defense laws to ensure that nobody who brandishes a weapon when they feel threatened will face charges no matter where the incident takes place in the state.

New Hampshire residents already have the legal right to defend themselves. The self defense clause is written into the state constitution, but there have been cases of people brought up on charges for showing a gun when they felt threatened. This new language would prevent that from happening. The added language gives New Hampshire residents the right to defend themselves “anywhere they have the lawful right to be.” In reality, we already had that right, this affirms it.

But this victory could be short lived, Governor Lynch has already vetoed a similar bill. We must call and write the governor and tell him that he needs to sign this bill if it makes it to his desk.

15 Comments leave one →
  1. Matt's avatar
    January 14, 2010 7:16 pm

    That is a win. We need as many of those as we can get.

    Like

    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      January 14, 2010 8:22 pm

      New Hampshire has one of the best rercords on the second amendment, but the recent ban on guns in state houses have many worried that the attack on the second amendment has begun. It will be interesting to see if HOUR 160 makes it to the governor’s desk, and if it does, what does he do.

      Like

  2. Dominique's avatar
    January 14, 2010 9:11 pm

    That is awesome news. There is much happening in New Hampshire! Wow! Maybe the ‘right’ change is coming!

    Like

    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      January 15, 2010 5:34 am

      I think the change is coming! The sentiment that we saw at the tea party is growing, if we can run a good candidate against Lynch we can win this.

      Like

      • Dominique's avatar
        January 15, 2010 12:51 pm

        That was an awesome day, wasn’t it. You realize, you and I are going to be int he history books for attending that rally in Manchester!

        Like

      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        January 16, 2010 7:41 am

        I hope you are right and that history will show that was the day the people stood up and took back their country!

        Like

  3. lilbear68's avatar
    lilbear68 permalink
    January 14, 2010 9:31 pm

    yes write the gov a letter at the next election
    or start a recall movement

    Like

    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      January 15, 2010 5:36 am

      Lynch is up for re-election this year, hopefully we can recall him the old fashioned way– at the voting booth.

      Like

  4. Mike's avatar
    Mike permalink
    January 15, 2010 1:29 pm

    Two questions: First, how do you all feel about guns being brought into the US Capitol? Second, is it fair for anybody to claim they felt threatened under any circumstances they choose — ie. can a person in the middle of a verbal argument pull a gun and claim they felt threatened when in fact by puling the gun they are the ones doing the threatening? Just wondering where that line gets drawn and who draws it?

    Like

    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      January 16, 2010 7:55 am

      Mike, I read your article, thanks for the link. My computer is down and I am using my Blackberry to browse the internet. The mobile version of Political Realities does not provide a link to leave comments. As soon as I get my computer back I will comment.

      Like

    • Man Yun Soo's avatar
      Man Yun Soo permalink
      November 11, 2012 2:27 pm

      The line gets drawn at the word “reasonable”, like many other laws that have to do with how a person thinks or feels.

      Like

  5. Dominique's avatar
    January 15, 2010 1:44 pm

    First, if they are legal, I don’t have a problem because it usually isn’t the “legal” gun holders that are the problem.

    Second, the line is for the courts to decide in each situation. You and I cannot determine where the line of feeling threatened is. It will be different for me than for you, I would presume, because I am a woman and physically not able to protect myself.

    Thirdly, I have no problem with someone pulling a gun out to defend themselves if they feel threatened, within reason. Again, most people who have legal permits to carry don’t go around just pulling their guns out just for the hell of it. That is a myth.

    Like

  6. Steve Dennis's avatar
    January 16, 2010 7:43 am

    I was going to respond Mike, but Dominique said exactly what I was going to say.

    Like

  7. terry wagar's avatar
    terry wagar permalink
    April 8, 2011 6:57 pm

    ERIC CARLSON IS AN UNDER COVER OFFICER AND HE STARTED AN AFFAIR WITH MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR!
    BOTH ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR WANTED THEIR SPOUSES DEAD AND THEY MADE IT KNOWN TO ME WHEN I FOUND THEIR EMAILS ON OUR FAMILY COMPUTER!
    ERIC CARLSON WAS UNDER COVER WORKING AT EAST PORT WALMART WHERE MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR WORKED.
    ERIC CARLSON IS ALMOST A TWIN TO ME, NOT EXACTLY BUT CLOSE ENOUGH HE COULD ACT AS A PHOTO DOUBLE, AND MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR AND THEIR CO-WORKERS AT EAST PORT WALMART WAS GUARDING THAT SECRET FROM ME!
    I DISCOVERED THEIR MURDER CONSPIRACY THROUGH THEIR NICK NAMES THEY GOT FROM THEIR CO-WORKERS, DOUBLECLICK AND MRS DASH.

    AFTER THEIR AFFAIR STARTED I BECAME SUSPICIOUS OF JOAN WAGAR I SUSPECTED SHE WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH SOMEONE.
    WHEN YOUR MARRIED TO SOMEONE FOR ALMOST TWENTY YEARS YOU JUST KNOW THAT PERSON AND WHEN THAT PERSON CHANGES YOU CAN JUST TELL, AND I COULD TELL SHE DID NOT LOVE ME ANYMORE AND THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO HIDE THAT FACT.

    TO MAKE A VERY VERY LONG STORY SHORT AS POSIBLE I REALIZED MY WIFE WAS CHEATING ON ME WITH SOME DUDE EVERYONE AT EAST PORT WALMART NICK NAMED DOUBLECLICK!
    I DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT STOOD FOR UNTIL I SAW HIM, I REALIZED WHAT IT STOOD FOR AS SOON AS I SAW HIM, HE WAS ALMOST A TWIN TO ME.

    ERIC CARLSON IS YOUGER THAN ME BY SEVERAL YEARS AND HIS HAIR IS MORE REDDISH THAN BLOND AND A LITTLE MORE SLIM THAN ME, LOOKING AT HIM REMINDED ME OF ME BUT SEVERAL YEARS YOUNGER.
    OTHERWISE HE WAS ALMOST A TWIN TO ME, FROM A DISTANCE YOU WOULD SWEAR HE WAS ME.

    BEFORE I SAW HIM MY MY CAME HOME AND SHE ADMITTED TO HER DAUGHTERS THAT SHE NOW HAS A NICK NAME HER CO-WORKERS GAVE HER, SHE SAID HER NICK NAME WAS DASH!
    JOAN WAGAR HAD ALREADY INTRODUCED HER DAUGHTERS TO ERIC CARLSON AND TO HIS NICK NAME SO THEY ALL WERE HIDING A DOUBLE OF ME FROM ME, JOAN WAGAR DID NOT CARE THAT I OVERHEARD THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR DAUGHTERS BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THOSE NICK NAMES STOOD FOR AND SHE HAD PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO LIE FOR HER.

    I SUSPECTED I WAS BEING POISONED AT THAT TIME AND SURE ENOUGH I FOUND HER HIDDEN POISON IN A SEASONING SHAKER SHE HID IN THE FRIDGE!
    I WONDER WHAT THOSE NICK NAMES STOOD FOR AND WHY SO SO MANY PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO HIDE WHAT THEY STOOD FOR!

    EAST PORT WALMART EMPLOYEES GAVE THEM THOSE NICK NAMES AND THEY WERE HIDING THE EMPLOYMENT OF A DOUBLE OF ME WHILE HE SLEEPS WITH MY WIFE!
    I WONDER WHAT THOSE NICK NAMES STOOD FOR? NOT!!!

    I WAS UNDER “INVESTIGATION” BY LAW OFFICERS AT THE TIME AND ERIC CARLSON IS ONE OF THOSE UNDER COVER OFFICERS!
    WHY ON EARTH WOULD AUTHORITY’S USE A DOUBLE OF ME IN THEIR “INVESTIGATION” AND WHY WOULD THEY PAY HIM TO START AN AFFAIR WITH MY WIFE? AND WHY WOULD MY WIFE WANT TO UNLESS SHE WANTS ME DEAD?!

    THERE WAS ANOTHER UNDER COVER OFFICER WORKING AT EAST PORT WALMART AND HE WAS SLEEPING WITH MY WIFE AS WELL, JOAN WAGAR SAID HIS FIRST NAME IS SHANNON, HIS LAST NAME UNKNOWN TO ME.
    I WAS BEING FRAMED AT THE TIME BY THESE UNDER COVER OFFICERS AND THEY GOT MY WIFE ON THEIR SIDE AND MY WIFE RECRUITED OUR DAUGHTERS TO LIE FOR HER AFTER THAT!
    THEY SET THE STAGE TO FRAME ME FOR THEIR CRIMES AND I WAS SURROUNDED BY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT AGREED TO LIE FOR MY WIFE AND FOR A DOUBLE OF ME!

    DOUBLECLICK AND MRS DASH, GEE WALMART WHAT THE HELL DID THOSE NICK NAMES STAND FOR WALMART?
    WHEN I FOUND PROOF OF THEIR AFFAIR THROUGH THEIR EMAILS I ALSO FOUND OUT ERIC CARLSON HAD IT OUT FOR HIS WIFE!
    I TRIED CALLING ERIC CARLSON’S WIFE TO WARN HER AND MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR POISONED THE HELL OUT OF ME FOR TRYING AND SOMEONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT COVERED IT UP AT THE HOSPITAL BY TALKING TO MY DOCTOR OUT IN THE HALLWAY, I OVERHEARD THAT CONVERSATION!

    FROM THAT POINT FORWARD I WAS SO BADLY POISONED I WAS STUCK AT HOME WITH NO HELP AND IN SO MUCH PAIN I COULD NOT GO ANYWHERE AND I COULD NOT GET HELP FROM A HOSPITAL!
    MY LIFE AT THAT POINT BECAME VERY CLOSE TO A MOVIE I SAW ONCE CALLED MISERY!
    I SAY THAT SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER BUT IT WAS MUCH MUCH WORSE THAN THAT MOVIE I COULD HARDLY TALK BECAUSE I WAS IN SO MUCH PAIN! A DEBILITATING PAIN!

    MY FAMILY BEHAVED AS THOUGH NOTHINGS WRONG MY DAUGHTER MEGAN WAS HARDLY EVER HOME AND MY DAUGHTER KAYLE JUST STAYED IN HER ROOM ALL THE TIME!
    NO ONE WOULD SPEAK TO ME EXCEPT MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR, AND SHE JUST PRETENDED TO BE A LOVING WIFE IN MY PRESENCE!

    IT WASN’T LONG AFTER THIS I FOUND OUT THOSE “INVESTIGATORS” HAD THE FAMILY UNDER VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WITHIN OUR HOME AND THAT JOAN WAGAR WOULD DELIBERATELY START UP UNUSUAL CONVERSATIONS!
    I REALIZED WE WERE UNDER VIDEO SURVEILLANCE AND AUDIO SURVEILLANCE AND JOAN WAGAR WOULD BEHAVE AS THOUGH SHE WAS FOLLOWING SOMEONE ELSE’S INSTRUCTIONS!

    I FOUND OUT JOAN WAGAR HAD HER SISTER VICKIE ROSALAS AND HER SON JESSE ROSALAS COME TO OUR HOME WHEN I WAS NOT THERE AND THEY INSTALLED A HIDDEN CAMERA IN OUR BEDROOM AND IT ALSO RECORDED OUR VOICES!
    KEEP IN MIND THEY ARE HIDING A DOUBLE OF ME AT WALMART AND EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY WAS TRYING TO HIDE THAT FROM ME!

    I WAS SO BADLY POISONED I WAS STUCK AT HOME FOR MONTHS SUFFERING IN PAIN WHILE JOAN WAGAR AND HER LOVER ERIC CARLSON HAVE FUN FRAMING ME FOR CRIMES USING ERIC CARLSON AS A PHOTO DOUBLE!
    NO MATER WHERE I TURNED TO I COULD NOT FIND HELP, FAMILY MEMBERS SIMPLY PRETENDED NOTHINGS WRONG AND THE HOSPITAL WOULD NOT HELP ME AT ALL I WOULD BE LEFT SITTING THE THE LOBBY AT THE HOSPITAL FOR SEVERAL HOURS UNTIL I GOT THE HINT THEY DID NOT CARE!

    THOSE “INVESTIGATORS” SEEN TO IT I CANNOT GET EMERGENCY HELP FROM A HOSPITAL AND FAMILY MEMBERS WERE GIVING ME A REPUTATION TO NEIGHBORS AND TO THEIR FRINDS SO NO ONE WOULD BE SUSPICIOUS OF THEM!
    THEY CALL IT “PEDOFYING” THEY WOULD “PEDOFY” ME BEHIND MY BACK!
    TO MY FACE THEY PRETENDED TO BE A LOVING FAMILY BUT BEHIND MY BACK THEY WERE CALLING ME A PEDOPHILE AND THAT I AM UNDER INVESTIGATION AND THAT THEY DON’T WANT ME TO KNOW ABOUT IT!
    THAT IS HOW THEY TURNED FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND CO-WORKERS AGAINST ME!
    I WAS BEING POISONED AND WAS SO ILL I COULD GO NO WHERE AND MY FAMILY GAVE ME THE REPUTATION AS A DRUGGY TO EXPLAIN MY BAD CONDITION TO OTHERS!

    THEY DESTROYED MY REPUTATION BEHIND MY BACK BY LABELING ME AS A DRUGGY AND A PEDOPHILE AND THEY PRETENDED I WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION AND THEY WOULD TELL PEOPLE NOT TO SAY ANYTHING TO ME ABOUT IT!
    THEY GAVE ME A PEDO REPUTATION AND A DRUGGY REPUTATION!

    REMEMBER MY WIFE IS SLEEPING WITH THOSE “INVESTIGATORS” AND ONE OF THEM IS ALMOST A DOUBLE OF ME AND MY WHOLE FAMILY AND WALMART EMPLOYEES WERE TRYING TO HIDE THAT FROM EVERYONE!
    ERIC CARLSON WAS DRESSING UP LIKE ME, HE WOULD HANG OUT BY SCHOOLS AND HE WOULD STALK CHILDREN WHILE HIS BUDDY’S IN LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD TAKE BACK SHOTS AND SIDE SHOTS USING PHOTOGENIC SO THAT THEY COULD SAY TO OTHERS “WE CAUGHT A PEDOPHILE STALKING CHILDREN ON PHOTO!” BUT THEY DID NOT TAKE FRONTAL PHOTOS BECAUSE ERIC CARLSON IS NOT AN EXACT TWIN TO ME, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH FOR VAGUE PHOTOS HE IS!

    ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR RECRUITED WALMART EMPLOYEES TO LIE FOR THEM ERIC CARLSON DRESSED AS ME AND HE STALKED CHILDREN WITHIN CLACKAMAS WALMART AND EVERYONE WORKING SOFTLINES IN THAT STORE BACKED UP FALSE CHARGES ON ME FOR WHAT ERIC CARLSON DID AND WALMART WAS HIDING ERIC CARLSON’S EMPLOYMENT AT THE TIME!
    WALMART PRINTED OUT FLIERS BASED ON WHAT THEY DID SO THEY MADE IT PUBLIC BUT THEY GAVE ME BLAME!
    JOAN WAGAR GAVE ERIC CARLSON MY BANK CARD AND ME MADE PURCHASES IN THAT STORE THAT DAY USING MY BANK CARD!

    I WONDER WHY MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR IS HIDING AN AFFAIR WITH A DOUBLE OF ME?
    I WONDER WHY CLACKAMAS WALMART PUBLICLY LABELED ME A PEDO USING FLIERS WHILE HIDING ERIC CARLSON’S EMPLOYMENT!
    ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR AND HER SISTER VICKIE ROSALAS AND MY DAUGHTER SHAWNA WAGAR ALL WORKED IN THAT STORE ON MARCH 26TH 2007 I WONDER HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO RECRUIT AN ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OF WALMART INTO PRESSING FALSE CHARGES ON ME? NOT!!!!

    RIGHT AFTER THAT ERIC CARLSON CHANGED HIS APPEARANCE AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO GASHEL AND EVERYONE AT WALMART WAS CALLING HIM BY THAT NEW NAME!
    DID I FORGET TO MENTION OUR DAUGHTER MEGAN WAGAR WORKED AT THE SANDWICH SHOP WITHIN THAT STORE?

    I CAUGHT THEM ADMITTING TO ALL THIS ON A AUDIO RECORDER I PUT IN MY WIFE JOAN WAGAR’S PURSE!
    THEY WERE FRAMING ME FOR THEIR CRIMES AND THEY WERE GOING TO MURDER SOMEONE AND THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE ME THE BLAME FOR THAT AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO KILL ME OFF SO I COULD NOT DE\NY THE CHARGES!

    IN OTHER WORDS THEIR KILLING PEOPLE OFF, THEY PEDOFIED ME PUBLICLY SO NO ONE WOULD CARE I AM A VICTIM, THEY WERE GIVING ME BLAME FOR THEIR CRIMES, AND THEY WERE GOING TO KILL ME SO I WOULD BE STUCK WITH THE BLAME!

    NOW IS PROBABLY THE TIME TO POINT OUT THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY VICTIM, I WAS A REGULAR PLASMA DONOR WHEN JOAN WAGAR STARTED HER AFFAIR WITH ERIC CARLSON AND I WAS DONATING PLASMA WHILE MY WIFE WAS POISONING ME!
    AND EVERYONE AT EAST PORT WALMART WAS CALLING JOAN WAGAR MRS DASH WHILE THEY HID HER MOTIVE, AN AFFAIR WITH AN UNDER COVER OFFICER THAT IS ALMOST A TWIN TO ME!

    I WONDER WHAT THOSE NICK NAMES STOOD FOR WALMART EMPLOYEES GAVE THEM, DOUBLECLICK AND MRS DASH!
    I AM CURRENTLY BEING BLACKMAILED BY THEM THEY PUT AUDIO DEATH THREATS IN MY HOME THREATENING TO KILL ME AND MY DAUGHTER IF I DON’T DO WHAT THEY WANT!
    THERE NOT TRYING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE BECAUSE NO ONE CARES THE AUTHORITY’S JUST COVER IT UP AND EVERYONE JUST PRETENDS NOTHINGS WRONG!

    I CAN SEE WHY AUTHORITY’S IN PORTLAND OREGON NEVER STAND TRIAL LET ALONE GET CONVICTED OF ANYTHING THERE IS NO ONE TO REPORT THIS TO THAT CARES!
    ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR ARE CAUGHT ON VIDEO ASKING JOAN’S DAUGHTERS MEGAN AND KAYLE TO LIE FOR THEM AND THEN THEY ADMITTED TO THEM WHAT THEIR FRAMING ME FOR THEY ADMITED THEIR FRAMING ME AS A PEDOPHILE!
    I WONDER WHY THEY WANT MY DAUGHTERS TO LIE FOR THEM FOR? NOT!!

    AFTER I CAUGHT ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR ON VIDEO ASKING JOAN’S DAUGHTERS TO LIE FOR THEM THEY POISONED DONNA MINOR TO DEATH AND THE HOSPITAL LABELED IT A SUICIDE!
    ERIC CARLSON AND JOAN WAGAR AND THEIR BRO’S IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BRAGGED ON A AUDIO DEATH THREAT RIGHT AFTER THAT AND ERIC CARLSON’S BROTHER WAS RENTING THE APARTMENT ABOVE ME AT THE TIME!
    ERIC CARLSON’S BROTHER IS ALSO IN LAW ENFORCEMENT!

    I AM BADLY CRIPPLED FROM THESE PEOPLE AND I AM UNABLE TO GET HELP BY CALLING 911, CALLING 911 WILL GET COPS TO MY DOOR BUT IT DOES NOT GET THEM TO GIVE A DAMN!
    I HAVE ALREADY TRIED COOPERATING WITH AUTHORITY’S I HAVE SURRENDERED EVIDENCE TO THEM AND THEY JUST SMIRK ABOUT IT AND THEY HAND THE EVIDENCE TO A FAMILY MEMBER!
    IT’S THEIR WAY OF ADMITTING THEY GAVE MY FAMILY PERMISSION TO POISON ME TO DEATH!

    Like

Trackbacks

  1. New Hampshire and the Second Amendment | Political Realities

Leave a reply to Mr Pink Eyes Cancel reply