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Democrats drop cap and trade from climate change bill…..or do they?

March 3, 2010

  I read in this article that Democrats are going to drop cap and trade from the climate change bill in order to try to gain Republican support for this bill, and it may be working. While the idea of pulling cap and trade off of the table sounds good, it doesn’t seem like it is true to me when you continue to read the article.

Any movement away from an economywide cap-and-trade system is a movement in the right direction,” said GOP Conference Chairman Sen. Lamar Alexander, who said the new direction “makes a lot more sense

  Notice that qualifier that Lamar Alexander inserted into his statement? Economywide? What does this mean? Apparently what it means is that the Democrats are willing to drop a “national” cap and trade system in favor of a “regional” cap and trade system.

the revamped proposal to do sector-by-sector regulation of carbon in which different caps could be applied to utilities, transportation and industry

  This idea seems to have opened up the door for more Republican support besides Lamar Alexander; my Republican Senator, Judd Gregg thinks the proposal is worth looking into, as does Lisa Murkowski,  George Voinovich, Lindsey Graham, and Susan Collins. Skeptical “economywide” cap and trade Democrats also feel this may be worth a look; Mary Landrieu, and Evan Bayh to name a couple.

  This bill is still based on a faulty, manipulated premise, known as climate change, and it still appears to be a cap and trade proposal to me. Republican Senator Voinovich said, “you can’t use cap and trade anymore because it is like manure on the trough, it’s defined, and people are opposed to it.” It appears that he is admitting the term cap and trade can’t be used anymore because it is defined, but this new  proposal for “sector-by-sector regulation of carbon” is new and undefined, so people do not oppose it yet.

  But what changes in this new proposal? Carbon emissions will still be regulated and what difference does it make if different industries are regulated at different levels? The end result is the same but the name has changed. This is a game of semantics designed to fool the American people into believing that cap and trade is dead when the basic premise remains alive.

  In light of the Climategate scandal, the fact that congress still is willing to negotiate a climate change bill with a new version of cap and trade without conducting the proper investigation into the allegations is just more proof that these politicians have set their agenda and they are willing to stop at nothing in order to pass it. Even if it means trying to fool the American people into thinking they have dropped cap and trade when in reality they have just changed the manner in which it will be implemented.

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  1. Rick's avatar
    Rick permalink
    March 3, 2010 9:18 pm

    Cap & Trade in what ever form or name it is given is nothing more then wealth distribution.
    Global Warming is increasing the average earth temperature by .008%. That’s it!
    Notice how you never hear of Ozone depletion any more?

    Greenhouse gasses are a combination of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and ozone. Carbon dioxide makes up about .038% of those gases.
    Yet we are told by those more intelligent then we, by those who see the emperors clothes, that it is Carbon Dioxide causing the problem along with methane but they have to stay away from arguing methane because even to them it’s hard reasoning the harm of .0000001745% methane in the atmosphere.

    But why not Nitrogen gas which makes up 78% of the atmosphere?
    How bout water vapor which makes up 1%. Would the Warmers change their story and discourage boiling water?
    How about Oxygen which makes up 21% of the atmosphere?
    Why choose Carbon Dioxide with only a.038% of the earths atmosphere as the vehicle of man made Global Warming?

    Because thats what fossil fuels do, as do ALL energy conversions from solid to gas.
    From wood burning forest fires, to coal, oil and gas fired electrical plants and the air we exhale and if you can control energy you can control markets. If you can convince enough sheepole that THEY are the problem you can control their behavior too.

    Global Warming is a Hoax and Al Gore as well as every “scientist” in his pocket should be prosecuted under RICO!

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    • Rick's avatar
      Rick permalink
      March 3, 2010 9:25 pm

      of the .038% Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere 97% of that is created by nature
      only 3% is estimated to be created by man made behavior.
      And our illustrious leaders are going to fix it for us?

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        March 3, 2010 10:12 pm

        This whole thing is a scam and they know it is a scam but they do not care because it moves the wealth redistribution agenda forward. We are getting dangerously close to having the government pass legislation that will impact our lifestyles, we need to stop this right away!

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  2. rjjrdq's avatar
    March 3, 2010 9:50 pm

    Climate change is a fraud and it looks like the usual RINO’s are trying to perpetuate it. That Lindsey Graham has just about run his course.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      March 3, 2010 10:14 pm

      It always comes down to these same usual suspects, doesn’t it. Hopefully we won’t have to worry about them much longer.

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  3. Mike's avatar
    Mike permalink
    March 4, 2010 9:08 am

    Do any of you see this “concession” as another among several moves by the Dems to paint the GOP even deeper into the “party of no” corner? I see three Dem moves recently that will all be held up as the Dems trying to make efforts at bipartisanship and the GOP slapping away the hand: 1) Obama adding 4 GOP proposals to his health care reform bill; 2) Dodd offering to put the Consumer Finanace Protection Agency under the Fed; and 3) this cap-and-trade move. I know you would view them all as efforts of no consequence but it strikes me that the GOP is getting set up beautifully here and missing the signs.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      March 4, 2010 10:42 pm

      I think that the Democrats have been trying to set up the Republicans in order to tear them down. I don’t see any of this as having no conseguence. They had better be careful not to fall into the trap.

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  4. Deb's avatar
    Deb permalink
    March 4, 2010 10:09 pm

    So be it. NO, NO, NO, NO.

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