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Barack Obama claims Mexicans were in America before there was an America

September 21, 2010

  During his speech to the Hispanic Caucus Barack Obama claimed that Mexicans were in America before there was an America. Barack Obama said that “long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. The British and French, the Dutch and Spanish, to Mexicans, to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land.”

  And he is correct that there were many different people in this country before America was founded, but there were no Mexicans here because Mexico did not exist. Sure there were Spaniards here, but no Mexicans.

  Mexico did not declare its independence from Spain until the year 1810, and Mexico’s independence was not recognized by Spain until 1821. Needless to say, this was long after America became America.

  Am I arguing semantics here? Yes I am, but you would think that Barack Obama would at least make sure he was historically correct before he opened his mouth. Or was he just so intent on appeasing the audience he was speaking to that he thought historical accuracy was irrelevant and would only be detrimental to his message?

14 Comments leave one →
  1. September 21, 2010 8:56 pm

    texas and much of california used to be as much a part of mexico as new england is to the united states, until those lands were taken by force. so yeah, he is entirely correct.


    • September 21, 2010 9:14 pm

      But the point is, there was no Mexico at the time of the founding. And by fighting the Spanish for independence didn’t Mexico take those lands by force from Spain?


    • September 21, 2010 9:22 pm

      My familiarity with that part of American history is a bit rusty, but isn’t it the case that Texas first declared its independence from Mexico before being annexed by the US?

      Part of the problem is looking back at history through 21st century glasses – that is, we try to apply the moral standards we accept today to the events of yesteryear, and judge our forebears by those standards.

      If there’s fault, it lies with Mexico in its refusal to recognize Texas’ independence.

      Bottom line, though, I’m awfully tired of hearing people judge our forebears by modern standards and finding them wanting.


      • September 21, 2010 9:49 pm

        I believe you are right, Texas declared its independence from Mexico with the intent of being its own sovereign nation before being annexed by the US. I am sure that Texas Fred can fill us in on this if we are wrong.
        You make a great point about judging the past using today’s standards, we can look back and pass judgement on them but the fact is it was a different time and wwe will never actually be able to understand what it was like back then.


  2. Maria permalink
    September 21, 2010 9:00 pm

    Yes, Obama has a habit of being so intent on appeasing the audience that he believes historical accuracy is irrelevant. With his history of manipulation…er, persuasion.. Obama simply assumes his audience is stupid and believes whatever he says.


  3. September 21, 2010 9:28 pm

    Well, America was around for an awfully long time – remember our name came from the Italian cartographer and explorer Amerigo Vespucci.

    Mexico, on the other hand, was known as “New Spain” until she declared her independence in 1810. I cannot find reference to her people being referred to as “Mexicans” until after independence was firmly established.

    I’m sympathetic to the idea of reaching out to all with an inclusionary heart, but let’s not rewrite history, eh?

    Take good care and may God bless us all!


    • September 21, 2010 9:52 pm

      True, there were Spaniards until they won independence and became knows as Mexicans, much in the same was as we were British until we won independence and became Americans.


  4. Sheila Simmons permalink
    September 21, 2010 9:37 pm

    Few nations on earth were founded without one people conquering and colonizing someone else’s territory. The fact is, WE won, Mexico lost, and we are not leaving or giving anybody anything “back”. If they wanted it back so bad, they could have taken it back long ago.
    Instead of teaching their school children that we “stole” the American Southwest, and they have the right to “conquer by migration” and take it back, how about Mexico works on Mexico’s problems instead of causing problems for other countries?


    • September 21, 2010 9:52 pm

      Here, here!


      • Anonymous permalink
        June 28, 2012 4:40 pm

        Youve stolen! By 1848 Mexico was a sovereign nation and the US military destroyed the Mexican Army , thereby Forcing Mexico to sell its northern territories or Southwest. As far as Texas, whites overpopulated the state, and they declared independence against Mexico! It was NOT the mexican People who declared independence, but whites! You KNOW-NOTHING white man! You murderers! What about all the mexicans you killed in the southwest??? Cold blooded killers!


    • LD Jackson permalink
      September 21, 2010 11:05 pm

      Truer words were never spoken and it is high time they were heeded.


  5. July 3, 2011 5:53 am

    Spaniards broght “Mexican Indians” into the Americas to explore the western continent long before any other race besides Native Americans ever laid eyes on it.. Just because they were not considered Mexicans doesnt mean they wernt?? This has nothing to do with labels but all about origin..And Indians from what we consider Mexico now were of Mexican descent..


  6. Anonymous permalink
    June 28, 2012 4:34 pm

    Mexican Independence was achieved in 1821, and thereafter Mexico was a Nation and in 1848, The Us STOLE the American Southwest!!! This will never change- White anglo government is full of thieves!!! Youve muredered, youve stolen, youve killed!


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