House votes to repeal Obamacare
In what is seen as a largely symbolic gesture, the House today voted to repeal Obamacare. The bill will now head over to the Senate for a vote…..or will it? Harry Reid has vowed to block this bill and will not allow it to go to the floor for a vote. The Republican leaders in the House have challenged Harry Reid to let this bill go to the floor for a vote–after all, if the bill is going to fail anyway why is Harry Reid afraid to vote on it?
The answer is simple: Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate know how unpopular this legislation is and they are unwilling to go on the record in support of this legislation for fear of repercussions in 2012. That is not exactly a vote of confidence if you ask me. Harry Reid would rather block the bill than do the will of the people and vote on it because he is trying to perform a juggling act. He is trying to keep the far left base happy, while not offending the center and the right, while at the same time trying to spare the president the embarrassment of his signature legislation facing even the remote possibility of repeal. In other words, he and the other Democrats in the Senate are nothing but cowards.
Today the newly elected Republicans delivered on one of their biggest campaign promises and while this is a symbolic victory for the American people, I do not believe in symbolic victories–you either win or you lose–I am only interested in real victories. So now that the House Republicans have made their statement, it is time to get back to the task at hand: they must now start to dismantle the healthcare bill one piece at a time, starting with the most controversial issues involved. This must be coupled with a defunding of the legislation so that they can buy enough time to dismantle this bill before it becomes law.
This delaying tactic must be used until the American people have the chance to send pro-repeal politicians to the Senate in 2012–then and only then will we be able to repeal this trillion dollar tragedy once and for all. We are in a war of attrition, we are under siege and we can only hope that we can survive this battle until the reinforcements come in 2012 to relieve us. (For those of you who are offended by the hate-filled vitriol and the references to war in the last sentence, I would remind you that it was a Democrat on the House floor today that called people like me Nazis, the gloves are now off!)

Okay, the House Republicans showed them how serious they were about this repeal. Now that they have that out of the way, they need to work on some surgical removal of the parts of the bill that are unconstitutional. There really is more than one way to skin this cat and they need to exercise all of their options.
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I agree 100%, now it is time to get to work on the parts of this bill we can repeal.
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RE: “The answer is simple: Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate know how unpopular this legislation is and they are unwilling to go on the record in support of this legislation for fear of repercussions in 2012. That is not exactly a vote of confidence if you ask me.”
Bingo.
I still want the Republicans to do what they can to force a vote in the Senate, if for no other reason except to get their votes on record. The only other routes will be the courts (unreliable), defunding, and taking it apart one piece at a time.
The thing is more than 2000 pages long. It will take forever to take it apart piecemeal. And there are too many ways to weasel-word support of this and that sections.
I don’t fully understand conversational bureaucratese, but a friend of mine who is an insurance adjuster printed out of copy of the bill, went through it with a highlighter, and scribbled little comments translating the text in the margins. The thing, as far as I can tell, is so vaguely worded that virtually any passage is wide open to “interpretation” by the agencies who will be in charge of the mess.
This means that your health care coverage is going to be entirely in the hands of a G-5 clerk sitting behind a desk. I’ve already been through that with the VA (I’m a disabled vet, Air Force, Vietnam Era), and got so disgusted that I actually lied and claimed that I was now “OK”, and dumped a 50% disability rating along with the pension I used to get every month to get shut of it all.
I already know how the government handles health care. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. VA clinics are either superior, or completely negligent. There doesn’t seem to be any in-between. Either the employees have bosses who care or they don’t. If their bosses don’t care, it’s a huge problem. Unfortunately, “don’t care” describes most of the bureaucrats in most of the government (at all levels) agencies I’ve ever had to deal with.
I am now 62, and pray that I never have to go on Medicare. But the way things are going, I may not have a choice before long, given that private insurers may soon be out of my reach.
Forgive my impatience… I want this ironed out NOW! I am trying to plan my retirement, but can’t do it with no one knowing what medical is going to look like next year, never mind in three years!
And then there’s the little item that I may not be able to retire…
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I didn’t realize you were a vet, thank you for your service!
I want them on record also, those that support the bill should have the guts to say so, to do otherwise is simply dishonest. It is going to take some time to dismantle this, that is why they need to defund it. Defunding it will buy the Republicans time while they attempt to dismantle this disaster. Time is something that we do not have–stop the funding first, repeal second.
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Not for 2 more years can it be truly rolled back. Yes, it is a symbolic victory but, like you said, nothing concrete yet.
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Yeah, we just have to delay this as much as possible until 2012. That is when we might be able to repeal this thing once and for all.
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Steve I have to wonder just how serious they are about repealing this terrible law. I mean I’m just a simple man, but in my opinion if the republicans were truly serious about bringing an end to ObamaCare then why not target the individual mandate? I think if they would have left the entire bill intact and focused on repealing the individual mandate they would have pulled a number of blue dogs to their side and scary Harry wouldn’t have had a choice but to bring it to a vote. And by not repealing the entire bill this would be seen as a way for the Democrats to save face and would essentially kill ObamaCare, because the individual mandate is the glue that holds it all together. This would have also resolved all the State lawsuits because it’s the individual mandate that the states are arguing against. Call me a doubter here, but I have this feeling in my bones that this really wasn’t a serious effort to kill ObamaCare. It was all political theater designed to appease the tea party groups and other organization and constituents opposed to ObamaCare. They come out swinging already knowing they are going to lose the first round because the fix is in. But in the eyes of the tea party and these other groups they appear to be fighting for them. I don’t know Steve maybe I’m missing something here. My trust meter is just a bit low right now. I guess it’s a step in the right direction, I just don’t think it was a serious effort.
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I understand your concern and I hope that you are wrong. I think that it is a little strange they chose to fight a symbolic battle first also, and I hope that this isn’t going to be the end of the effort. My congressman has vowed that the Republicans will start to pick apart the bill now that the vote is over. I don’t know why they couldn’t have started there, as you pointed out they could have dismantled the entire bill by repealing the mandates. Here is hoping they still do that!
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Actually, they’ve probablly been doing that in comittee from Day 1. Just because they were able to come up with a page of legislation that said, “REPEAL!” quickly doesn’t mean they aren’t already working on the other approaches. The other approaches simply take more time.
I suppose what I mean is that this is the first time in ages that I’ve felt that we have a Congressional majority that can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Correction: “this is the first time in ages that I’ve felt that we have a Congressional majority that can walk and chew gum at the same time.”
Change that to “Republican majority”. The Democrat majority has never had a problem working on several items at the same time.
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I think you are right and the Republicans are working on this from several different points, that is what my Rep. Frank Guinta has said they were doing and as of yet I have no reason to doubt him.
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I think Reid is afraid some senate Dems may jump ship and vote for the repeal to save their hides in 2012. Sure, it would be vetoed, but the American people (the representatives of) would be on record as having officially repealed it. In that scenario, it would be a tough campaign for anyone that voted no.
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That is a strong possibility. maybe he feels support for the bill is slipping and he fears a major embarrassment.
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We need to look big picture people. Despite our nausea to the fact, this is how politics is played. Jabs, punches, counter-punches. The only thing that motivates these people is the threat at losing their power. This was by no means a “symbolic gesture” – this was pure politics, and it is necessary. The big picture is getting rid of this monster that is Obamacare, by any means. Getting people on the record, or getting Reid to tacitly admit how unpopular the bill is by not bringing repeal up for a vote is all part of the game, and it is a useful part. If we were privy to the strategic sessions of members of congress, it would blow our minds the number of machinations and levels of intrigue they are juggling on any given day. Is this right and proper? Hell no, but it is the way the game is played. let’s not hamstring our side by complaining when our guys are playing the game.
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Good point! Hopefully that was only the first round in this match, and the knockout blow will be coming soon!
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