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Eric Cantor claims Republicans will not vote to raise the debt ceiling without concessions from Barack Obama

April 21, 2011

  Everyone seems to agree that if the debt ceiling is not increased (even if in Barack Obama’s own words while he was a senator this is a sign of poor leadership) that it will have disastrous results; I am not going to pretend that I am an expert on this subject so I will just assume that this is true for the sake of this post. What I do know is this; Barack Obama and the Democrats cannot allow the United States to default on her obligations on their watch, so this could provide the Republicans with the opportunity they need to ask for a little bit in return for providing Barack Obama with the increase he needs due to his poor leadership. (His words, not mine.)

  And–at least on the surface–it appears as if Eric Cantor is ready to do just that, claiming that the Republicans are ready to let America default on her debts if their demands are not met.

Republicans are floating a wide range of major structural reforms that could be attached to the debt limit vote, including statutory spending caps, a balanced budget amendment and a two-thirds vote requirement for tax increases and debt limit increases.

     None of these positions require the draconian cuts that the Democrats always like to claim ANY spending cuts are, and all of these seem like perfectly legitimate structural changes that would benefit the country moving forward.

 We have seen the Republicans take a hard line stance on issues such as this with Barack Obama and the Democrats in the recent past only to be disappointed, so it will be interesting to see which side blinks first on the issue of the debt ceiling.

  The Republicans are going to use this opportunity to push for a change in the system, while the Democrats are sure to claim that the Republicans are holding the debt ceiling hostage for political reasons. And that may be true but we are reaching critical mass here and something needs to be done. It is time for someone to stand up and take a stand because if America continues down this path it will only be a matter of time before America implodes under the burden of the incredible debt that is building beneath her.

  Barack Obama himself–as I alluded to above–once held the debt ceiling hostage for political reasons even though now that he is president he is saying that this is the wrong thing to do. It is interesting to note his sudden change of position now that he is the one that is asking for the debt ceiling to be raised.

  In the end the debt ceiling is going to be raised, there is no doubt in my mind about that, so if we are to believe the president’s rhetoric about sacrifice being all encompassing we can expect that the Democrats will also be asked to sacrifice a little bit in order to get the debt ceiling raised. After all fair is fair, right?

  While letting America default on her obligations may have dire consequences, so will continuing down the path we are currently on. We simply cannot afford to spend money that we do not have and so it appears to me that these two issues combined can be used as a means to affect the changes in the system that are much needed. We can only hope that Eric Cantor and the Republicans are actually serious about this and will not bend under the pressure that is sure to come.

19 Comments leave one →
  1. Matt's avatar
    April 21, 2011 9:00 pm

    I think the GOP needs to bring something back this time. The last time they went against the POTUS, they came back with some magic beans.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 21, 2011 9:08 pm

      They have been disappointing so far so I am not going to get my hopes up this time, but it would be noce to see them actually get something positive this time.

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    • Matt's avatar
      April 21, 2011 9:24 pm

      And they didn’t even grow a freaking beanstalk!

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  2. Mark's avatar
    Mark permalink
    April 21, 2011 9:11 pm

    Like someone that has no idea how to budget getting a credit increase on a credit card, raising the ceiling without restriction would undoubtedly result in more unrestrained spending. We should not even bother looking at what this man Obama has said or done in the past, because all that matters to him at this point is pushing his agenda and expanding the power of his party. He will say or do anything that accomplishes that without regard to his own precedent.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 21, 2011 9:24 pm

      Very good points and I agree that raising the debt ceiling would only encourage the government to spend more when it is beyond time for them to cut back.

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  3. Conservatives on Fire's avatar
    April 21, 2011 9:18 pm

    As Sarah Palin has said; it’s time to man-up. the Republican leadership has been less than inspiring. They have passed the Ryan budget in the House. I see this as a weak position. They will have to negotiate down from there. They should have something much more onerous so they could negotiate down towards Ryan numbers. Sigh!

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 21, 2011 9:26 pm

      Exactly. We saw this with the CR on the budget as well; we were promised $100 billion in cuts, but in order to reach that goal the starting number should have been higher. Yet the starting number was lower and it was negotiated down from that point. I hope we don’t see the same thing happen here.

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  4. John Carey's avatar
    April 21, 2011 9:25 pm

    Steve we will not default on our loan if they don’t raise it the roof. Here’s why. We cap it at the current level and work backwards prioritizing our obligations and the importance of programs and agencies. What this is means is we pay the interest to our creditors first that removes the threat of default and secures our national credit rating. Now comes the fun part, we rack and stack each entitlement program and look for savings wherever we can find it. We cut portions that are redundant and wasteful and sniff out fraud. We can find billions in savings by doing this. We do this with the entire budget until we squeeze our funds enough to stay in the limits of the debt ceiling. It takes some work but if they want to save our country then that’s what its going to take. Don;t buy in to the line that we’ll default, because it is what it is…a scare tactic and lie.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 21, 2011 9:30 pm

      Thanks for the info John; as I said I am not an expert on this and in fact I just don’t understand all of the intricacies of this issue so I just coceded the point in the interest of the post. There is no doubt in my mind that all of this doomsday talk is nothing more than scare tactics. Thanks for shedding some light on this!

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      • mapajamas's avatar
        mapajamas permalink
        April 22, 2011 11:55 pm

        Dennis, John is 100% correct. And it isn’t that difficult to figure out. Raising the debt ceiling would be like making payments on a credit card by opening a new credit card and charging the payments to the other cards. It doesn’t help anything, and convinces everyone else that you are NOT fiscally responsible. It will NOT help the US credit standing. If you or I made a habit of doing that, Equifax would ding our credit so hard and so fast it would make our heads spin. The world’s economic experts… the REAL ones… aren’t any dumber than Equifax. They won’t buy an increase in the debt ceiling. “This way there be dragons.”

        We have hit and bypassed the debt ceiling in this country at least 16 times in the past 50 years, or so I’ve heard. The world did not fall down. The government limped along for a while, but it survived. Revenue coming in from currently incoming tax payments would keep the entire government afloat for several months… and that’s without making any cuts at all. Social Security checks will go out. Medicare payments will be made. The mail will be delivered. Make necessary cuts, the logical things such as John suggests, and things would not change at all.

        The debt ceiling “problem” is yet another scare tactic to stampede us into demanding another fiscal disaster. Remember back to how it was the crisis to end all crises when we had to do TARP, then the “investments” Obama demanded, then… well you see what I mean. It’s just a scare tactic.

        The Republicans should hold the line and shut down the government if that’s what it takes.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        April 23, 2011 7:41 am

        Thanks for the info, now I understand it a little better.

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  5. LD Jackson's avatar
    LD Jackson permalink
    April 21, 2011 11:00 pm

    The Republicans certainly need to stick to their guns on this issue. Even though the debt ceiling will probably have to be raised, they don’t have to give away the bank. Rolling over and playing dead is not going to help them make their case to the American people.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 22, 2011 6:43 am

      I agree, I hope the Republicans don’t roll over on this issue without getting anything at all but I am afraid they will bow to the pressure.

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  6. rjjrdq's avatar
    April 22, 2011 4:06 am

    I’m with John on this one. Not raising the debt ceiling just means the U.S. can’t borrow more money. It does not mean defaulting on anything. What not increasing it will do is force Washington to actually budget what they have. As I understand it, U.S. government revenue is around $2 trillion. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t need another dime. That’s plenty of money.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 22, 2011 6:44 am

      That is good to know because that certainly is not the way it is being portrayed.

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      • mapajamas's avatar
        mapajamas permalink
        April 23, 2011 12:02 am

        It’s what I said it is in my longer message… an attempt to stampede the public into demanding that they “do something” about it, no different from the earlier financial boondoggles that we were stampeded into supporting earlier.

        “This way there be dragons.”

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        April 23, 2011 7:42 am

        Yet another “crisis” which the regime can use to manipulate the people!

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  7. Bunkerville's avatar
    April 22, 2011 8:07 am

    Call me cynical. It will be another 11th hour deal that no one has a clue what is in it, or worse, no one understands what is in it, and the ramifications.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      April 23, 2011 7:42 am

      I would call you cynical but we have seen it play out that way too many times in the past.

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