Occupy Wall Street starts to show their true (red) color
As I have watched the Occupy Wall Street movement grow there is one aspect of the movement that has bothered me. And that is the fact that most communist revolutions begin with a leader stepping up the class warfare rhetoric while promising to take care of the working class at the expense of the upper class–the proletariat vs the bourgeoisie–and that is what we are beginning to see here.
Barack Obama–the self professed working class warrior–has stoked the class warfare fires and called for people to get up off their couches, take off their slippers, and start marching in protest of the bourgeoisie. And that is exactly what is happening as the useful idiots are now marching against the upper class (going so far as to protest on their property) in a scene that is eerily reminiscent of days gone by in a couple of European countries in the 1920s.
At first I thought that these proletariat protesters simply didn’t understand that they were beating the communist drum of revolution and that Barack Obama was playing to their ignorance to achieve a goal that he knows in Marxist in nature. And that would have been bad enough on its own to see these protesters being used in a communist style revolution without their knowledge of how they were being used, but it appears even worse than that because we are beginning to see that some of the protesters actually do know how similar this is to the 1920s.
I have now heard several audio clips in which the protestor interviewed has admitted to a communist/Marxist mindset while claiming that capitalism has failed and must be replaced, and here we actually have a protester calling for violence against the bourgeoisie:
One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.
Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.
India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.
So, ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.
Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”
And then there is this story about a speaker in New York who was railing against the Wall Street Jews who are controlling the economy. (We’ve heard this type of anti-Semitism in the past, haven’t we.) And these are the people that Barack Obama called to the fight and Nancy Pelosi asked God to bless. These protesters are starting to show their true color–they are anti-capitalist Marxists and naive socialists who want the government to support them at the expense of others–and Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi have come out in support of this revolution because in the end they have the same goals.
Make no mistake about it, this is exactly what Barack Obama had in mind when he called the people to action; he wanted people to take to the streets and he wanted to spark division in differing classes of Americans because this has been a powerful tool for dictators to gain power in the past and Barack Obama knows that if the people are divided amongst themselves that they won’t be united against him and he would rather get reelected by tearing the nation apart than lose an election in a united country.
I do believe that as these protests grow and as the number of people participating in them swell that there is the very likely chance that they will turn violent and I am not sure that Barack Obama wouldn’t welcome that scenario. Barack Obama’s army is now marching in the streets.
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You nailed it Steve,
This was kicked of just before his famous vacation, this is orchestrated by the dems and Hillary’s gangs, the same ones that help incite the middle eat uprisings.
this is only going to get worse,
check out this little motivational video I found at Noisyroom
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/10/12/a-message-from-anonymous-to-the-american-autumn/
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Yep, this was an organized movement right from the top; Obama spoke and the minions acted. Thanks for the link, I will check it out tonight.
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This current situation does have some of the characteristics of the communist revolutions of the early 1900’s and events bear watching. One element, however is missing in that those successful revolutions in Europe there was no strong middle class. Like you, I see the protest growing, but never reaching critical mass. You did give us something to think about Steve.
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That is a goo point Ron and I hope you are right because I do see this reaching critical mass, then again once the cold weather gets here they will probably give up and go back home.
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Great post my friend. This is exactly what Obama was looking for…as well as Van Jones. What was it that Van Jones said, Top down, Bottom up, inside out. Top down came from Obama when he said hit the streets. Bottom up are these Marxist stirring up trouble in the street, and inside out are the people in the middle who will look towards government to protect them against these hooligans. This is only the beginning I fear.
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I forgot to mention Van Jones, he has been out there stirring the pot as well.
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Why did Europeans, our founding fathers and many such as my ancestors flee Europe (Great Britain), to this country and form another? Because of exactly what you say the Wall Street Protestors are … hmmm … protesting against – the holding down of the middle-class and poor. Over the last thirty years we have seen factory upon factory, tech company after tech company, seek and search cheap labor in third world countries instead of employing American men, women and college graduates – yes they want more pay than the other because the standard of living here is much higher, and they too want a piece of the American dream. Why else would someone spend four-six years in college? In addition, we have seen corporations secretly entice and import Hispanic labor (cheap labor) across the boarder to replace skilled American craftsmen – there is only so much a person, group, or class of people can take. And before you or any other justifies the action of these corporations is the cause of labor unions, let me say, labor unions here, in the U.S., keep corporations from doing what they ‘are’ doing to the people in these third-world countries – exploiting men, women, and ‘children’ by forcing them to work in unsafe conditions for extensive hours, for little or no pay, or to flat out work for free or for the government. Then, after the “U.S.” products are built by another people they ship them back here to the largest consumer market in the world for us to buy – how stupid we must be to buy them … All the while they avoid corporate taxes, which are currently at their lowest rate in fifty years. Again, before yo spew some off-the-cuff nonsense and claim all this response to be unfounded, pick up any American History college level text book or poli-sci book and read for yourself- or better yet invest in the World Book of Facts and stop believing everything Fox News vomits on the TV screen. By the way, why don’t you far rights quote some rational Republicans instead of the insane radicals? Calvin Coolidge, a slash and cut Republican presided over a robust economy, championed the middle-class (the factory worker), raised tariffs on imports to spur growth here for everyone, not just a select few, and presided over a period in my country in which the people had more money than ever to spend … look after yourself as well as the commonwealth, Coolidge said, the man that builds a factory builds a temple. Wonder why it was a robust economy then? Everything from the Model ‘T’ to the washing machine was manufactured and sold in our backyard, and everyone from the person buying the product, the factory worker that built it, and the corporate owner(s) paid taxes. And yes, there labor unions then to. How can one blame a people that want to work, when the so called ‘job creators’ are not giving them a chance to work because everything from sneakers to ipods are built everywhere else in the world – thy use the unions and the expectation of American workers pay as cause to seek out cheap labor elsewhere when in reality it’s an excuse to thicken their and the shareholders wallets. And before you call me non-American, let tell you that my family has been in on this soil since and prior to this country’s inception, my forefather fought against the British, was wealthy and died poor like most cause he invested his fortune to purchase firearms from the French to defeat them. From there my ancestors fought in the Civil war, WW1 and WWII, and Vietnam, because my skin is white, and I’m not of a South American or Hispanic I have been turned down for jobs that once paid well, but due to the influx of these people, which has driven down pay, I’ve been told by some employers in the pasts that they could pay two or three of them per hour what I alone would want per hour. That’s why there are protests … you call it what you will and what’s being done to Americans by corporate America is far from Capitalism and trickle-down economics and has become Totalitarian in nature and no one party is to blame, blame the lawyers, the lobbyist and our representatives … our Representative Democracy is broken.
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You were kind of all over the place there; one minute blaming factories for our troubles and the next praising Coolidge for building factories. America may have problems but to throw out the capitalist system? What is it replaced with?
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Dude, paragraphs are our friends. They help break out thoughts into cogent groupings that invite readers to, well, read. A single unbroken block of text is intimidating and forbidding. If you want people to read what you have to say, use paragraphs and KISMIF (Keep It Simple, Make It Fun)!
Take good care and may God bless us all!
TGY
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Our lesson for the day, haha!
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Good advice TGY, it was hard slogging through that comment.
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Mrbottom,
Your post explains the total lack of a coherent message from the hippies and college punks that are turning our cities into a third world tent city.
There are a few countries already premaid to your malcontent desires, one that comes to mind is communist China.
This whole movement is a disgrace led by our disgracefull Marxist president.
Unions destroy eveything they touch period.
Maybe some more wiggle fingers and unison chants and you can finally turn the tide agaisnt these horrible corporations.
Your movement is a joke.
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Unions had their place in the past, not now. They just stir up the pot and the people are buying it. They are in no way here to “help” anyone but themselves. They use the little people for their money AND for what they can do for THEM. Used to be the other way around. Obama knows the type of people he is playing to with the Occupy Wallstreet group. A point was made above about it getting cold and I doubt that most will have the stamina to go the distance unless they go home for awhile and return. We have the left over old hippies and the young wannabe hippies there, all others are WORKING. I hate to see Van Jones surfacing in this, but it was bound to happen, wasn’t it? I think in the end Mayor Bloomberg will get his fill of this and crack down on them. Right now he wants to appear as if he sides with them, does he??? Who knows with that man. So, between this gearing up and the Iran issue, is it enough to get Obama and AG Holder off the hook with F&F? Guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. I have never seen so much chaos at one time in one administration, have you? Seems like they just can’t keep things running smoothly, maybe it is time for some adults to take over on this game of theirs.
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Unions are the biggest Democrat special interest group and it is not surprising that they would join this protest, after all unionization is collectivism and that is what this is all about.
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Lot of noise by a small number of kooks
Wall St is plenty corrupt, but the Left doesn’t have any solutions other than take all the money and plug it into a Soviet type system
Idiots-
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It’s growing RR and I think it is going to keep growing as long as Obama stokes the fires. Wall Street may have its problems but the answer is not communism.
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My hunch is they are just waiting for some form of violence so they can implement the next stage of thier plan. The plan? Not sure, but everything going according to their well documented script so far.
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I believe they want violence also because that will give the regime the crisis is needs to move forward and this is too similar to communist revolutionary tactics for my liking.
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No doubt, the OWS folks appeared a bit inartulate, especially at first. That’s more reflective of a lack of central leadership or planning.
Anyway . . .check out this link, please.
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1
The prose is easily readable and the charts fairly easy to understand if you take a moment or two to do so. Overall, this may take a few moments of your time, but if you’re wondering what these folks are actually protesting about, or if you think they’re just a bunch of spoiled kids trying to avoid getting a job, you owe it to yourself – and your country – to take those few moments and understand why so many of your fellow Americans are upset. You may still disagree with them – it may strike you as perfectly fine that corporate profits and executive compensation are at record levels while unemployment also persists at massive levels, for instance – but you’ll have a better understanding of what’s motivating them.
Otherwise, I hope all’s well with everyone. As always, take good care, and may God bless us all!
TGY
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I understand that Wall Street isn’t perfect but these people are advocating for the total overthrow of the capitalist system and then when you look at some of the demands–free healthcare, free college education, and a living wage regardless of employment status–you realize that these people are advocating for a total takover of the economy by the government and that certainly isn’t the answer to our problems.
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Thanks for the link. What all these charts and graphs are basically showing is that while corporations can participate in (and profit from) the growing global economy, American workers are limited to participating only in the stagnant American economy.
In the early 1990s, critics of globalism warned of this. They were right.
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Steve, I think this post oversimplifies the protests, and puts them in the worst possible light on the basis of one or two anecdotal examples. In fact, your critique here is very much like the left’s take on the tea party. The left found the tea party very easy to dismiss based on its extreme (but unrepresentative) elements. We should not make the same mistake.
Yes, there are plenty of leftie whackos out there on the Street, But look at the title of your post:Occupy Wall Street starts to show their true color. Don’t they say the same thing about the tea party whenever a rightie whacko out there makes a fool of himself, to our disgust?
What’s funny (in a sad way) is that the sentiments of many Wall Street Occupiers are at their root the same sentiments as some original Tea Partiers (before it was co-opted by the GOP). That is, utter disgust with the way our government and big business have enabled each other to divert all of America’s productivity gains to the financial and corporate elites, as well as to the public sector, and away from Main Street. Core members of both groups are disgusted with campaign finance. Both are disgusted with the Fed. Both are disgusted with offshoring of jobs. There is much in common, but divergent ideologies cause the groups to view each other as enemies.
Why does our tax code support companies that invest abroad, and punish companies that invest at home? Because that’s the policy that the multinationals have bought off our politicians to get. That status quo is killing our productive economy.
Wall Street Occupiers blame big business, Tea Partiers blame big government, but the two evils of big-biz and big-gov cannot destroy our economy without each other’s help. It’s too bad so few realize that a motivated alliance of sympathizers to both the Wall Street Occupiers and the Tea Partiers could do a lot to weaken the unholy alliance of big business and big government.
One of those few is Buddy Roemer.
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“this post oversimplifies the protests, and puts them in the worst possible light on the basis of one or two anecdotal examples.”
I dunno, Noah. Steve’s post is not a comprehensive collection of OWS links, but he mentioned hearing several audio clips that support his assertion that the protest is permeated with radical left beliefs.
And I’ve been running into a whole lotta anecdotal examples, not just one or two. Here:
Evidence of union, socialist, and anarchist planning of these protests:
http://biggovernment.com/thomasryan/2011/10/14/the-email-archive-of-the-occupywallstreet-movement-anarchists-socialists-jihadists-unions-democrats/
Evidence of radically left mentality and violent inclinations “lop the heads off”:
http://kingshamus.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/the-enduring-genius-of-occupy-wall-street-part-trace/
Using the image of communist Angela Davis as an Occupy icon:
Communist Party USA supports the OWS movement:
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
On to another point. Steve says there is a “very likely chance that they will turn violent.” At this point, I’ll respectfully disagree. Some folks want to it to turn violent–somebody on MSNBC actually wants a “Kent State” moment, for example. But on the whole, these protesters don’t seem like the dangerous type.
So far. Hopefully I won’t have to eat those words.
cheers and have a great night all
Linda
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We see more stories every day that help t show the true color of this movement, I just chose a couple. Certainly they all do not realize that this has a communist feel to it because they have been brought up through the public education system and do not understand history, but those who are behind this movement certainly know what they are doing. The fact that the Communist Party USA and te Nazi party USA have endorsed this movement helps to prove my point.
I hope that you are right about these people and that this will not lead to violence. But I just get the feeling that something bad is going to hppen.
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I agree with the bad feeling. I think alot of the youth are itching for a fight and don’t really know why. I think that this administration will force the issue and show their backing as well as the unions. I think at one point all hell will break out and the police will not have enough man power to fight it and then we know the outcome…martial law. Obama is just sitting back and waiting for this to run the course he has planned. I think it has been laid out very well, to do the least amount of damage to this administration. I think Obama is taking advantage of people that really don’t have the whole picture and have been swayed by only what they are being told by the MSM. Tell me I am wrong here!
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Funny thing. I’ve been trying to be optimistic, but I started to get the bad feeling last night, watching Geraldo play up the OWS on Fox. These clean-cut “spokesmen” were putting such a nice gloss over communism.
The triggers that can cause even normally peaceful people to become violent, of course: fear, and empty bellies.
Let’s hope the economy hangs on for another 15 months or so . . .
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I am hoping that this protest will end up being nothing, and I hope that I am over-reacting, but I do see reasons to be worried about this movement and I will be watching it closely.
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Yep, unions are great;) I had a union job, lasted all of three years before I was laid off. My husband fared a bit better, his lasted a whole ten years before his job was eliminated. Isn’t that great? Anyway, I see your point Steve, I was just fixated on the fact that Obama was being racist against his own peeps! “bedroom slippers”?? Is he kidding me? I saw that Russell Simmons (former rapper, pol. activist) had an interview on MessNBC, and did not want to talk about the anti-semitism at OWS. I can just imagine if there was one lonely person with an anti african american slogan on a sign– ARMAGEDDON!!!
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