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Obamacare: Will the Supreme Court delay its decision until 2016?

February 21, 2012

  When the Obama regime decided not to appeal the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that the individual mandate in Obamacare was unconstitutional and requested that the Supreme Court take up the case before the 2012 election many  people wondered what Barack Obama was up to. After all, why would Barack Obama fast track the Supreme Court hearing when he could have delayed it until after the 2012 election? Why did he chose to allow the Supreme Court to hear Obamacare arguments before the election, thusly turning this into a campaign issue?

  We just might now know the answer to these questions. Any American who does not comply with the healthcare mandate will have to pay a fine to the federal government for their non-compliance with the law. In an effort to keep his promise to the American people, Barack Obama claimed that this “fee” was not a “tax” therefore he was not imposing a tax on people who earn under $250,000 and elect not to have healthcare coverage.

  But a funny thing happened on the way to the Supreme Court; the Obama regime’s defense of the healthcare mandate in the courts has been that this fine is indeed a tax and therefore it is constitutional because the Congress has the right to levy taxes on the American people. And this might be the reason why the Obama regime decided to fast track the Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare.

  If the Supreme Court rules that the healthcare mandate is indeed a tax it may be required under law to delay a ruling on Obamacare until 2016, here are the details:

First enacted in 1867, the Tax Anti-Injunction Act sweepingly forbids any court from hearing any case in which any person attempts to prevent the assessment or collection of a tax. Once the tax has been assessed and collected, however, a court may hear a case on it.

The ObamaCare mandate is enforced by means of a penalty fine, collected by the IRS. With a few exceptions, this fine will be imposed on every citizen who doesn’t check a box on his tax return affirming that he has purchased government-controlled health insurance. 

Is the IRS penalty a tax, or not? So far, lower federal courts have come down on both sides of this issue. And for complicated legal reasons, the Obama Administration has actually been taking boths sides on it: in Congress, the President’s men say it’s not a tax; in court, they say it is.

If the high Court decides the mandate is a tax, it will be a dream come true for the Administration:

  • President Obama faces reelection in November 2012.
  • ObamaCare doesn’t go into full operation until January 2014.
  • The first time the IRS can levy the mandate penalty/tax won’t be until folks file their tax returns, in mid-April 2015. 
  • The slow judicial process will likely delay a final Supreme Court ruling until mid-2016. 

  This is certainly a potential turn of events that I didn’t see coming, and it is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. I always thought Barack Obama may have had something up his sleeve when he made this decision and now we might just know what it was.

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  1. William McCullough's avatar
    February 22, 2012 2:24 am

    Why would anyone think that the Supreme Court couldn’t be coerced into putting off that decision ? We have already seen substantial interference in our economy and even our election processes. Additionally we currently have one of the most corrupt administrations in modern U.S,. political history.

    Add to that people like George Soros who has literally had his hand in every financial and political crises in Europe for the last 20 years and also has a hand, via Obama, in the pocket of the American taxpayer. Lets also not forget that old bag man himself, Warren Buffet who like Soros, seems to have profited from every bone the administration has thrown their way.

    But those two cretins are only bag man for greater powers than they. Obama, as smart as he thinks he is, is nothing more than a willing stooge who thinks he is smarter than those more powerful than he. We’ll see just how far those international financial powers will let him go. My guess is that, reelected or not, he may be on borrowed time if his current course in any way threatens their interests.

    Having seen what I have seen in my prior experiences I truly believe, as do many of my fellows, that conspiracy theories are the stuff of reality rather than fiction. But again, as I have said before, the American public has been convinced that there is no such thing. Paranoia – not really, just a heightened awareness from someone who has seen things that most have not….WM

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      February 22, 2012 7:21 am

      They may be conspiracy theories, but they grow and thrive because there is something there to help them along. There is no doubt in my mind that people like Soros and Buffet have been pulling the strings within the Obama regime and we are the ones who end up getting screwed.

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    • lou222's avatar
      lou222 permalink
      February 23, 2012 10:10 am

      William, I am a firm believer that the first opinion a person has on something is probably the closest thing to the truth. It is when you try to start digging deeper into something that your mind might take a turn in a different direction. I also feel that way when first meeting someone. There may be a short time that I think maybe I was wrong, but I usually am drawn back to my initial opinion of them.

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  2. Harrison's avatar
    February 22, 2012 3:59 am

    Coincidence… but a bad one.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      February 22, 2012 7:22 am

      It probably is a coincidence; it is hard to believe that the Obama regime thought this far in advance or even new about this tax law, but still you just never know…..

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        February 23, 2012 10:13 am

        I am getting so tired of our government playing “politics” with our lives, Steve.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 9:41 pm

        So am I Lou, too often we are simply pawns in their game.

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  3. The Georgia Yankee's avatar
    The Georgia Yankee permalink
    February 22, 2012 11:00 am

    Interesting . . . and it would give Obamacare the opportunity to get up and running for a while, thus making it harder to take apart. And of course it’d give Dems another weapon in the re-election arsenal – we’ll be able to accuse the GOP not only of wanting to take away Medicare and Social Security, but also of wanting to take away people’s health insurance . . .

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      February 23, 2012 9:44 pm

      Exactly TGY. Once Obamacare is fully implemented, or close to being fully implemented, it will be nearly impossible to dismantle it and it will provide the Democrats with an issue to attack the Republicans over for years to come. The Republicans have been out flanked by Barack Obama and the Democrats on almost every issue since they won the House and this might be yet another example.

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  4. joesix's avatar
    February 22, 2012 8:57 pm

    Conservatives are going to regret coining the term “Obamacare,” giving the president all the credit for a health care reform bill that only made incremental changes to a system still in dire need of becoming more European.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      February 22, 2012 9:26 pm

      I don’t quite understand your position. You support moving the American healthcare system towards a European system, and don’t think that Obamacare went far enough. Yet you think the Republicans made a mistake for giving the president the credit for passing a bill which you feel in inadequate? Am I missing something here?

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      • joesix's avatar
        February 22, 2012 11:32 pm

        That’s about right. Any civilized country that has the ability to care for each and every one of its citizens has the responsibility to do so. Liberals have problems with the idea of an individual mandate too, yet people of all political orientations can still agree that no one should have to die because they don’t have enough money. President Obama took a step in the right direction, but it was nothing like the single payer system his administration first had in mind. Our grandchildren will read the word “Obamacare” one day and associate the unavoidable idea of American universal healthcare with Barack Obama.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 7:27 am

        This is the first step toward single payer, and Barney Frank is on video admitting that people need to be patient because it will take years to get the whole plan done.

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    • lou222's avatar
      lou222 permalink
      February 23, 2012 10:15 am

      WHY would we want to become more European? Isn’t that making a u-turn on what our founding fathers had in mind? That makes no sense!

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      • The Georgia Yankee's avatar
        The Georgia Yankee permalink
        February 23, 2012 3:43 pm

        Careful there, Lou, that sounds awfully Manichean, and you don’t strike me as such a black-and-white dude.

        The Framers didn’t try to make this country in a “non-European” mold, they tried to expand on what they saw as good about Europe while discarding the bad. It wasn’t Europeanism to which they were opposed, but bad practices of European nations.

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        February 23, 2012 9:29 pm

        Ok, ok TGY. I will try and be nice. Dude, tho I am not. I am able to see shade of gray, as well. As you say, we need to keep the good and discard the bad, however, I see alot of bad in our future. I will leave it there and that disturbs me.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 9:47 pm

        Not only is Lou not a black and white dude, she is not a dude at all. 🙂

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  5. Mike Edwards's avatar
    Mike Edwards permalink
    February 22, 2012 11:13 pm

    100,000 sperm cells and you were the fastest? Affordable healthcare should not be denied to any citizen, but however, all but the upper middle class and the wealthiest have coverage. We have the best healthcare providers in the world and still produce a mediocre 37th place ranking by the WHO. Why? Private healthcare insurance pays between .68 and .76 cents per premium dollar – Medicare pays .97. No negotiation with big pharma on prescription drugs. Why? My son-in-law pays $1275/month for himself my daughter and their son w/$250 deductibles per and $15 copays. In order for healthcare insurance to exist it must continue to sell itself on Wall St. Each year premiums & deductibles etc. MUST go up, coverage MUST go down or these companies fold. How is that going to end?
    Healthcare should not be a business. Do you think that this will change? Will Blue Cross simply say, “Hey, let’s give our subscribers a break this year and leave costs alone, because we’re supposed to help people to get well! Lets make money next year.” I think not.
    And before you start yelling Socialism, consider that these plans will take from the best health center providers in the country; Sloan-Kettering, the Cleveland Clinic, Loma-Linda, Johns Hopkins, the Mayo Clinic etc. to find out what they are doing to get the best outcomes at the most efficient cost. (No, Sarah, there is no plug to pull on Granny, no mandated hospice requirements.) If you like what you have stay with it but I’m betting no way Jose. There weren’t 3500 lobbyists in Washington in 2009 for fun: (7 per lawmaker) because that same year your Healthcare insurance companies took $12 billion in profits alone, out of health care costs. You will pay one way or another: in higher premiums or lower coverage due to ER’s serving as the primary healthcare provider for the uninsured in our society. Can you spell ‘cost-shifting?’ We have a disaster in the making RIGHT NOW. 16% of GDP is health.
    The tax on Everyman, is to insure that there will be sufficient resources to care for all of us who should have access to quality, affordable health care – not just those who won the ovarian lottery!

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    • lou222's avatar
      lou222 permalink
      February 23, 2012 10:20 am

      Mike, if everyone DID pay their fair share, as the President wants us to, then there might be something to discuss. The problem is, it will NOT be the ones on welfare, or medicaid, etc., that will be paying, they will still get the benefits, but the burden will be put mostly on the middle class. I am fresh out of money to give the government. Our Illinois taxes are taxing us to death as well as the federal taxes and still they want more. Do you know how many “middle class” people I know that say, they would get better benefits and live better if they just quit their jobs? Do I need to tell you? What happens then? Where will the government get their money after that happens? This has to stop, this taxing us out of jobs and homes and our ways of life. This is simply unacceptable in my book.

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      • The Georgia Yankee's avatar
        The Georgia Yankee permalink
        February 23, 2012 4:00 pm

        lou, with all due respect, what your friends say about the benefits of being unemployed is largely myth and legend. Let them go on Medicaid for a few months and then ask them about finding a doctor who would accept Medicaid patients to begin with. Then ask them about the interminable waits in crowded offices with people who couldn’t afford daycare, so they brought their screaming children with them.

        Ask them how often they got to go out to a decent restaurant on their unemployment checks. Ask them about the food stamp allowance they get, and how nice it is to be buying lobster every week . . . NOT. Better yet, let them scrimp and save so that once in a while they can afford some sort of beef other than ground, and tell you about the dirty looks they get from other shoppers who think they’re stereotypical welfare bums.

        From my recollection, it was Nixon who really started exploiting people’s resentment of other Americans, at least in this century, and Reagan perfected the art form by spreading half-truths and flat-out lies. It’s still going on today – ever since President Obama was elected, talk show hosts have been playing the same sound bite of one ignorant woman in Florida saying “Now that Obama’s President, I don’t have to worry about paying my mortgage,” implying that all of Obama’s supporters expect a free ride from the government.

        What’s happening in this country is the rise of a class of politicians who inflame their supporters by defining those who think, worship, or even look different, as the enemy, hell-bent on tearing down the “real America,” until half the people in this country hate each other, and the rest think politics is so toxic they don’t even bother to vote.

        The calculus is simple: if you can disillusion a certain percentage of the voters, you need fewer votes to win. If you convince half the electorate to sit out the elections, then you only need to convince 25% plus one to vote for you. As long as your core supporters stay active, the more of the “other” voters you drive away in disgust, the greater chance you have of winning.

        Take good care and have a great day . . .

        And may God bless us all!

        TGY

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      • Mike Edwards's avatar
        Mike Edwards permalink
        February 23, 2012 7:46 pm

        Lou, I know exactly what you’re saying. We all feel the crushing weight of taxes a the Federal level, state, county and city. Everyone is out of money! The point I’m trying to make is that every month we pay our health care premium, we are getting less and less and paying more and more. My son-in-law is almost to the point of being self insured as are we all! The health care providers + big pharma have the power to force increasingly higher payments for less coverage. Fee for service, higher deductibles and copays combines with less & less prevention coverage. Providers are squeezed also; they have to sign contracts with smaller compensation packages + we have fewer positive outcomes if it continues.
        Healthcare insurance buys lawmakers who pass these regulations on to the rest of us. It is not an easy fix, but making Blue Cross and Wellpoint wealthier is probably not going to make it easier by giving them more and more of your money.

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        February 23, 2012 9:40 pm

        TGY, I didn’t say I agree with the ones that say they should quit their jobs. I know it is said in frustration, guess I can understand that. We are all getting taxed to death and depending on where you live, some more than others. It seems we can’t get ahead and still they want more. There is no one party that is responsible for this, it has been going on for years, we are just seeing some of the results now. Now is the time to get a handle on it, but I am afraid it might be a little too late for that. What do we do then? You have, however, summed it up quite nicely!

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 9:49 pm

        Yet almost 50% of Americans pay no taxes at all and still get the benefits!

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 9:56 pm

        I agree with both of you here. I am becoming increasingly more dissatified with both parties in the country because I do not believe either has the best interest of the people in mind. They are only concerned with getting reelected and the best way for them to get reelected is to divide the people against each other.

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    • Barbara's avatar
      Barbara permalink
      March 7, 2012 6:25 pm

      Mike, the problem is…. this healthcare reform doesn’t “fix” what you are talking about. It doesn’t stop uninsureds from using ERs, and it doesn’t provide affordable healthcare to every American citizen. Premiums are still expensive and beyond affordability to millions of Americans, especially those with pre-existing conditions, not to mention – those who do not “value” insurance, will still not “value” having insurance. Will they choose to pay thousands of dollars a year for coverage over a few hundred dollars of a penalty at the end of the year? Then you have those at the poverty level who exempt from the law and all the waivers being issued (majority to unions by the way), and the ERs will be just as busy as they are now. Then lets add in all the money for the extension of coverage to age 26, which will probably result in an increase in claims for DUI accidents, drug rehabs and overdoses, etc. And how about the cluster#($& of departments to administer this new program? Have you seen the flowchart on this monstrosity? This thing will not pay for itself — no way, no how. And come 2014, it will bring everyone to their knees.

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  6. John Carey's avatar
    February 22, 2012 11:31 pm

    This is this kind of stuff that smacks the spirit out of people. Just when there is a glimmer of hope this happens to yank the rug for underneath them. This is why more and more people are beginning to embrace the reality that our government has become so corrupt then what’s the point.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      February 23, 2012 7:31 am

      It sure is John. It gets so frustrating to see this happening before our eyes knowing that there is very little we can do about it other than to try to make as many people aware of what is going on as possible.

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    • lou222's avatar
      lou222 permalink
      February 23, 2012 10:22 am

      John, just wait until we get another liberal in the SC. At that point it will be useless to take anything to court, won’t it?

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      • The Georgia Yankee's avatar
        The Georgia Yankee permalink
        February 23, 2012 4:03 pm

        Good point, lou . . . but which conservative Justice is next to retire, and when? It’s the liberals who are older, so if President Obama gets to nominate another Justice, it’ll probably be to replace a liberal justice.

        Also, I haven’t heard any of the usual whimpering about activist judges recently . . . I wonder if that has anything to do with the Roberts Court being more activist than any since Warren or Burger?

        Take good care, and may God bless us all!

        TGY

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        February 23, 2012 9:54 pm

        I am referring to Justice Kennedy, the swing voter. He is 76 now and possibly up for retiring. Replacing Justice Ginsberg would not be an issue with her being liberal and I would say the Justice Breyer is probably not going anywhere in the near future. So, the swing voter retiring would be a major shift in the outcome of SC decisions.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        February 23, 2012 9:59 pm

        Even if Obama is only replacing a liberal justice with another liberal justice, it will be a younger justice, ensuring the balance of the court for many more years so it still does matter who the president is who is making the nominations.

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