Gunrunner: Eric Holder claims that emails about Fast and Furious weren’t actually about Fast and Furious
Earlier today Eric Holder once again testified under oath in front of the House Judiciary Committee and once again the beleaguered Attorney General adjusted his story.
When news of Operation Fast and Furious first became public knowledge Eric Holder claimed this operation was conducted by a few rogue agents in the field without his knowledge, but we soon learned that Bill Newell–who was in charge of Arizona’s field division of the ATF–shared information on the deadly operation with at least three White House officials, and we also learned that emails were sent to Eric Holder’s office regarding Fast and Furious. Knowing he could no longer claim this was a rogue operation Eric Holder changed his story and stated that while his office did in fact receive these emails he hadn’t actually read any of them. But just the other day Darrell Issa informed Eric Holder that he had emails to top level officials in the Department of Injustice which discussed Fast and Furious, and these officials reported almost daily to Eric Holder.
With this new information it appears highly unlikely that it is possible for Eric Holder not to have known what was going on in regards to the deadly scandal and Darrell Issa went on the offensive stating it was time for Eric Holder to either “lead or resign.” He also called out Eric Holder for his ever evolving story:
You don’t lie to Congress, and then lie about lying to Congress and then lie about knowing you lied to Congress and then not fire the people who did all of that and have it be anything but a cover-up
Clearly Darrell Issa feels as if he has Eric Holder on the ropes and is finally making an all out push to get him to resign for he is using much stronger language than before he received these new documents. Eric Holder knows his story is falling apart and today he tried to explain how it was possible for him to have received emails on Fast and Furious and still not know about Fast and Furious when he claimed these emails were not really about Fast and Furious.
Eric Holder tried to deflect the blame by falling back on a tactic the Democrats have grown accustomed to using for nearly a decade–he tried to blame George W Bush. Eric Holder stated that the emails which referenced Fast and Furious were actually referring to a Bush era program called Operation Wide Receiver. Operation Wide Receiver was a program implemented by the Bush administration which the Obama regime tried to use as justification for Operation Fast and Furious , and while the two operations might be slightly similar this is an argument which has already been debunked here.
This is what Eric Holder tried to claim today:
That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record
But, as Rep. Jason Chaffetz points out, that isn’t true because the email clearly mentions Fast and Furious AND Wide Receiver:
Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions
And clearly the Department of Injustice was already looking at this trough a political prism when it discussed which of the two operations would be unveiled to the public first:
I think so, but the timing will be tricky, too. Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious
It is clear that these emails were discussing both the Bush era Operation Wide Receiver AND the deadly Obama era Operation Fast and Furious, and it is clear that once again Eric Holder has perjured himself in front of the Congress. There is not one person who can read these emails and conclude anything other than the fact that both operations were being discussed, and every time Eric Holder opens his mouth his defense becomes even less believable than it was before.
At this point Eric Holder has become an embarrassment and yet he continues to hold on and I believe there is a reason for this–he is protecting someone. As I stated above, three people in the White House–including a member of Barack Obama’s national defense team–knew about Fast and Furious and because of this I find it highly unlikely that none of these people thought this issue should be brought to the attention of the president.
Eric Holder is trying to hold on until after the election because he doesn’t want to see Barack Obama implicated in this scandal while he is running for reelection.
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I read some where today that after Chaffetz read the e-mail emphazing the words “Fast and Furious” that Holder replied, “well, yes but I have superior knoledge”. What he has is superior gall. I think you’re right. Holder is covering for Obama.
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I don’t think there can be any other reason why Holder is still holding on other than to delay this until after the election because Barack Obama is involved in this.
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I could not find it on c-span today. Bernanke was much more important. Looks like it is moving forward though.
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I think that the last few days are encouraging, it seems like Issa finally has what he needs to move this forward.
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B, it was not on C-span 1, 2 or 3, I found it on a live feed site. He sat there pretty much denying that he knew anything. Even after Jason Chaffetz read an email, he still said it didn’t say what it said. How much longer will they let this go on???? I find it kind of strange that the Dems, when they get their 5 minutes to question him, sing him praises and ask something entirely off subject. Well, guess it is not strange, afterall, they want to water down what is gong on. That Jackson-Lee woman (term used lightly) gets on my nerves when she is butting in, but she still does it. I see no further movement from yesterdays questioning that they have gotten any closer to finding out what went wrong and making AG Holder confess to his knowledge. I also think they are stalling til after the election and imagine there will be a big payoff for AG Holder. Issa was on cable last night and said 5 minutes is just not long enough to ask what he has to ask, so why is there not a special session? I know they have 40 members that each get minutes, so we have bits of outrage, then patting him on the back. I guess it is entertainment for us little people, not much more. It gets our hopes up and then we are left with the same o same o, just more time goes by and AG Holder walks out of there after saying he dosn’t know anything. So much for our system at work to hold those accountable for what they have done. Is it any wonder there is so much frustration with this matter?
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I hope c span archives it. His other hearings are there. Thanks. Next time I will look for a feed.
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I am becoming more optimistic that something is going to happen soon Lou.It is being reported that Issa has a mole who gave him the documents Holder has been refusing to provide. Issa’s tone has changed, in my opinion, and I think he now knows he has him and is just letting him hang himself.
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Reblogged this on Freedom Is Just Another Word… and commented:
Perjury? Lying under oath?
Not me!!
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Thanks for the reblog, there is no longer any doubt that Holder has lied under oath.
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He must be covering for Obama. I do believe Obama knew about this, he had to. Thanks for staying on top of this Steve.
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You are welcome John, and there is no doubt in my mind that Obama had to have known about this from the beginning.
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John even us “little people” know that Obama had a hand in this. But like the saying goes, “lie, deny and make them prove it”….that is what is going on and I guess there is just not enough solid facts to nail them on. It seems it can all be explained away, doesn’t it? Frankly, I am offended that this is going on and can’t be stopped, but what do I know!
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I think is is most likely that this will never make its way back to Obama even though he is probably the one who gave it the okay, but I do think that Issa is finally getting close to Holder.
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This would be exactly the time.
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I agree, it is time for Issa to up the pressure on Holder and make this an election year issue.
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Absolutely.
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Doesn’t the Speaker need to get more involved in this? I just see him as not wanting to say too much. I feel that he is not doing his job. This needs to be a big part of what this election is about, fraud, deceit, cover-ups, lies, there is so much wrong with this administration and it needs to be 24/7 reported. Guess the question is WHO do we get to do this? I think the blogs are a good place to start, but even some of the more conservative shows are reluctant to say too much. Guess there is a price to pay if you do. However, there will be an even bigger price to pay if they don’t, in the end.
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I think technically Boehner won’t become involved until Issa turns it over to him, but is does seem like he is trying to slow this down and I am glad to see Issa moving forward without worrying what Boehner wants.
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Reblogged this on Cmblake6's Weblog and commented:
Really? If the Fast and Furious emails weren’t about Fast and Furious, what exactly WERE they about?
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Thank you so much, keep spreading the word my friend!
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Absolutely!
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Congress is quick on the draw when a baseball player lies to them about steroids, which is none of their business to begin with, and then prosecute and jail the baseball player. But, when it comes to scoundrels such as Erick Holder, Barack Obama and other professional liars lie to them, and are caught in their lies that have national security implications, no prosecutions and jail sentences are forthcoming. Congress bullies base ball players when base ball is none of their business, but refuse to prosecute those they should be prosecuting.
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That is a great point! Why is this taking so long? I hope this is going to heat up in the very near future.
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This AP article today http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HOLDER_FAST_AND_FURIOUS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-07-21-59-36
had this quote towards the end
“How many people in Mexico have been killed as a result of the U.S.” engaging in the gun-walking tactic? asked Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas.
“I don’t know, but I think there would be some,” replied Holder. The attorney general pointed to a broader picture: That 68,000 guns recovered by Mexican authorities in the past five years have been traced back to the United States. Operation Fast and Furious involved about 2,000 guns in total, and agents lost track of about 1,400 of those.”
The AP has long been an apologist for Obama and company but apparently even they are starting to notice. and really? “agents lost track of 1400 guns” WTF
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Thanks for the link. He thinks there would be some? Yeah, hundreds would be more accurate.
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Chip, they were not concerned with deaths as long as their plan worked. However, it seems that those pesky deaths got in their way, doesn’t it? Now they have to do damage control, darn!
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Reblogged this on Truth, Lies and In Between and commented:
Fucking lying sack of shit. Bald faced lies to Congress and he still has a job. WTF?!!!11!1!1
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Thank you so much!
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This could get BIG. Apparently there’s a mole:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/231387-mole-helps-rep-issa-whack-doj
Does Holder go after finding the mole and look like he’s covering it up or does he go after Issa, stonewall, or quit?
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Thanks for the link Harrison, it does look like Holder has been painted into a corner. It looks like the best option for him will be to resign and perhaps that’s why Issa used that term earlier this week. I think he will continue to stonewall unless it becomes to much of a political distraction for Obama.
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He’s blocked investigators this long… you really think he’ll quit?
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No I don’t, and come to think of it, if he did it would be pretty damaging to Obama as well.
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He has stalled this long, I know we talked about Obama pardoning anyone if something happens, but what if he is not able to do that? Self preservation is pretty strong in most people over loyalty. I can dream, can’t I? Maybe once he knows he is caught, maybe he will start the singing.
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