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Republic vs Democracy: What is the Real Form of the United States Government?

March 10, 2014

   As every single American should understand the Constitution set up a republican form of government. In fact, the Constitution actually guarantees each state a republican form of government.

  If you ask most Americans today, and this includes our elected officials, what form of government exists in the United States of America you will almost always be told we are a democracy.

  I cannot put into words how upset I get when I hear a politician call America a democracy for the Founding Fathers feared democracy almost as much as they distrusted Monarchy. They understood that a democracy was the tyranny of the majority over the minority.

    Why is it that even most of the people we elect to represent us do not understand the principles laid out in the Constitution? Or is it simply that they do understand the proper system and do not agree with it because they are the ones in power?

 Here is a video which was shared with me on Facebook by one of my friends which I think all Americans, especially those in power, need to watch because it explains the differences between democracy and republicanism.

  Until and unless we return to our Constitutional founding we will continue our slide towards despotism.

 

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  1. Brittius's avatar
    March 10, 2014 8:19 pm

    Reblogged this on Brittius.com and commented:
    America is, a Constitutional Republic.

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  2. Tom Roland's avatar
    March 10, 2014 8:40 pm

    Excellent!

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  3. Conservatives on Fire's avatar
    March 10, 2014 8:49 pm

    I’m with you, Steve. WTH do they teach in schools these days? A Democracy is where 50%+x can put the screws to the 50%-x. In other words, a democracy means the mob rules.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      March 11, 2014 5:31 am

      Mob rules is something the founders were very worried about and they set out to make sure America was not a democracy, but we have been sliding Toward democracy for many years now.

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  4. Sherayx's avatar
    March 10, 2014 8:59 pm

    Reblogged this on SherayxWeblog.

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  5. Bruce's avatar
    Bruce permalink
    March 10, 2014 9:05 pm

    One of the best, clearest, most understandable explanations I have ever heard!

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  6. Disturbeddeputy's avatar
    March 10, 2014 10:16 pm

    Reblogged this on disturbeddeputy and commented:
    Democracy? We don’t need no stinking democracy!

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  7. rjjdq's avatar
    March 10, 2014 11:04 pm

    Great explanation. The terms have been interchanged to such an extent that I think many Americans are confused over the definitions.

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  8. Gunny G's avatar
    March 10, 2014 11:05 pm

    Reblogged this on THE CLINGERS : BLOGGING BAD ~ DICK.G: AMERICAN ! and commented:
    GYG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  9. Chip's avatar
    Chip permalink
    March 10, 2014 11:41 pm

    This is exactly why they created the Electoral College, and if you want to set me off, suggest that it be eliminated. If we elect by the popular vote the election is the hands of the ten largest population centers of the US, as they can outvote the rest of the country.

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    • thegeorgiayankee's avatar
      March 11, 2014 1:47 am

      Not so – because even the ten largest population centers don’t vote monolithically. Eliminate the electoral college and all the Republican votes in California and New York get counted.Right now the effect of the Dem majorities in those states is to throw those states’ electoral votes 100% to the Dems. Switch to popular vote and maybe it’s only 60-40 Dem

      And they created the eelctoral college not so a handful of party loyalists could cast their ballot for the candidate who won the majority of the popular vote in their state (you know, 50% plus one, which is what COF is upset about), but so that a selection of learned members of the community could debate among themselves and select candidates for the Presidency. But what the framers intended really never happened, and party politics quickly took over. It wasn’t the intent of the founders, though, that a state’s electors be bound to vote for the single candidate who won the majority of the state’s popular vote.

      Today, there’s a movement underway that’s received a great deal of support, called the National Popular Vote project. Those states that join pledge to commit their electors to vote for the candidate who wins the majority of the popular vote nationwide.

      We live in interesting times.

      Take good care and may God bless us all!

      TGY

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      • Bruce's avatar
        Bruce permalink
        March 11, 2014 11:41 am

        No, it is not the existence of the electoral college that ignores my vote, but rather the California legislature that makes that choice. The legislature here has talked about proportional voting, but the left is in control here, and they want to keep it that way. So, they are happy with the winner-takes-all system keeping the left in control.

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        March 11, 2014 7:40 pm

        There is no way any party which so controls any state will allow a change which would mean it could possibly cost them EC votes.

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      • thegeorgiayankee's avatar
        March 11, 2014 10:17 pm

        Eh, I wouldn’t single out the California legislature for following the lead of 47 other states in terms of how its EC votes are allocated. I’m sure the Texas GOP has no intention of diluting it’s apparent lock on its EC ballots with proportional representation.

        HOWEVER . . .

        Note that California has enacted the National Popular Vote law – the way the law is worded, as soon as the states that enact it total 270 or more EC votes, it becomes law in those states, binding on their EC electors. It could happen as soon as 2016.

        Yes, these are interesting times . . .

        And may God bless us all!

        TGY

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        March 12, 2014 5:36 am

        I agree TGY, there is no way any state which has a constantly reliable majority party is ever going to vote to change they system in a way which might hurt their own party.
        We have discussed the National Popular vote movement before so I will not rehash it here but from what i have read the movement targeted the states most sympathetic to the movement first and the rest of the states are going to be harder to get. I think this is going to happen at some point, but I am not sure it will be in time for 2016. We will see….

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  10. thegeorgiayankee's avatar
    March 11, 2014 2:05 am

    I wouldn’t be that concerned, Steve, because in sa sense it’s semantics. Our representatives are elected democratically, with the winner of the popular vote in each district winning the election. If our national legislators were appointed by their state governments, as Senators once were, we’d be less of a democracy. However, the republican form of government is alive and well in our legislative process.

    Many of the reasons for the electoral college, though, no longer remain and that institution’s continued existence really isn’t justified any logner, except that oour entire political system is built around it. There’s no requirement, for example, that states allocate their entire EC strength to a single candidate – check Maine and Nebraska.States can do what they want with their EC votes, yet I’ve heard people scream that anything other than the winner-take-all formula is unconstitutional.

    I don’t the problem is so much the semantics of whether we’re a republic or a democracy – remember, the pols you’re talking about are discussing our system of elected representatives, not a townphall system or any other “pure” democracy.

    I think the problem is that too many people still don’t really understand what the Constitution does and does not say. F’rinstance, in addition to not mandating that a state’s EC ballots be allocated to the popular vote winner, it also doesn’t grant anybody the right to vote for President, but instead authorizes states to decide who may and may not vote for president, within certain limitations like gender and age.Any state could, under the Constitution, deny gays the right to vote for president. Or legal immigrants, or people with Italian ancestry. I’m not advocating it, and I doubt any state would actually attempt it, but they have the right to do so under the Constitution.

    As I say, I think too many people really don’t understand the Constitution at some of its major points, and the issue of whether we’re a democracy, a republic, or a democratic republic, of a constitutional republic, is really just semantics. From my perspective, we’re a republic the majority of whose officials are democratically elected.

    Take good care, and may God bless us all!

    TGY

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      March 11, 2014 5:43 am

      Personally, I like the system in the states that award EC votes by proportion and I wish more states did it that way.
      I have written in the past about the 17th amendment and how it has probably done more to change America into a democracy than anything else and I support its eventual repeal.

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    • Mary Healey's avatar
      March 11, 2014 3:06 pm

      With all the increased funds over the past 50 years for public education,how is it that our system produces young people who are ignorant of our Constitution?

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        March 11, 2014 7:41 pm

        Because it is being done intentionally!

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      • thegeorgiayankee's avatar
        March 11, 2014 10:21 pm

        Eh, I think a lot of those funds were to enhance the teaching of things like science and math. And of course, not all the funds reach the classroom – the minute they were allocated, groups sprung up whose focus was to see how much of a profit they could scrape off the top.

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      • Bruce's avatar
        Bruce permalink
        March 11, 2014 11:17 pm

        Got to disagree again Yankee. According to my wife who teaches at a college, and a business partner who taught elementary school, it sure didn’t go to science and math, but rather to endless department deans and administration, then a whole series of “studies” classes e.g. ethnic studies, women’s studies, Latino studies, feminist studies, gay studies, and just about everything but American constitutional studies.

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    josiahe permalink
    March 11, 2014 1:10 pm

    I’ve got to learn not to allow ideas to bounce around in my head too long; you’ll beat me to them again — then again, you say them better … Well said!

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  12. zip's avatar
    zip permalink
    March 11, 2014 1:43 pm

    May explain why ‘we the people’ don’t seem to be ‘Represented’.
    The United States Isn’t a Country — It’s a Corporation! http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm
    The Secret Constitution and Bank Wars
    http://youtu.be/-yy0NmkIQcQ

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    zeitgeist2012 permalink
    April 7, 2014 4:15 am

    Reblogged this on Economic & Multicultural Terrorism and commented:
    As every single American should understand the Constitution set up a republican form of government. In fact, the Constitution actually guarantees each state a republican form of government.

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  14. thegeorgiayankee's avatar
    April 7, 2014 2:05 pm

    We’re a democratic republic. Not a plutocratic republic and not an oligarchical republic, and not (yet) a corporate republic. And not a republican monarchy. Our representatives are elected by the people in processes that are strictly democratic in nature – the person who wins the greatest number of votes is declared the winner, except in those places that require an absolute majority, in which case there’s a runoff. How much more democratic could the process be?

    Take good care and may God bless us all.

    TGY

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