A US District Court rules states can require proof of citizenship in order to vote
According to this story a US Disrtict Court has ruled that states have the right to require a person who is registering to vote to prove they are a citizen. The court also ruled that the FEC cannot block states from implementing this law.
A U.S. District Court judge ruled Wednesday that Arizona and Kansas can require anyone registering to vote to prove their citizenship and the federal Election Assistance Commission cannot block them.
The ruling is a boost for states’ rights and marks a setback for President Obama and other liberals who fought stiffer voter ID checks with an argument that they reduce voter turnout.
The statement made by the Secretary of State in Kansas summed this ruling up perfectly:
“This is a huge victory for me, personally, for the states of Kansas and Arizona, and for the whole cause of states’ rights,” said Kansas Secretary of State Kris W. Kobach, who led the challenge. “We’ve seen so many defeats recently in areas where the federal government has been encroaching on states’ authorities, and this time the good guys won.”
Nothing really needs to be added to that statement other than to remind everyone that this is not over because it is sure to be appealed, and we have already seen what court orders mean to the Obama regime in the case of the ATF raiding a gun store despite a court order so there is no guarantee the FEC will not simply ignore the ruling.
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You’re welcome.
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Isn’t it sad that this issue ever had to go to court, in the first place?
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It sure is!
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Should this make its way to the SCOTUS and it rules against KS and AZ could states rights as a whole meet its Waterloo?
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Not there is much in the way of states rights, but yes I think this would be the death knell.
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At which point the Constitutional Convention we’ve discussed before must come into play. Not to rewrite it, but to restore it.
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If it is not too late at that point!
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Eh? I’ve always had to show proof of citizenship when registering to vote. And I’ve never objected. I object to being required to re-prove it when I show up to vote, both because of the potential for excruciating delays and also the potential ignorance of the volunteers doing the certifying.
The reporting in the Times’ article seems to be (deliberately?) confusing the issue of voter ID, which is a polling-place measure intended to combat the non-existent problem of in-person voter fraud, with proving citizenship upon registration, although there’s no doubt the Court addressed the registration half of the equation. The article, however, talks about the recent controversy over voter ID as if it’s all been oriented around registration.
If it’s really the case that the Obama administration has attempted to limit the states’ ability to require that people prove their citizenship as a condition of becoming voters, then it’s wrong, and the court was right to slap it down.
The real issue, in my mind, continues to be requiring legitimate voters who’ve used alternate forms of ID for decades, suddenly to change. I’ve always said I’m comfortable with instituting picture ID as a requirement for casting a ballot for all new voters and everyone who’s ever used one, but if someone’s been showing their utility bill and bank statement for the past 30 years, it’s wrong to make them change now, and certainly seems designed to prevent a segment of the population from voting.
Take good care and may God bless us all!
TGY
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Let me amplify – I’ve read a bit more on the issue and it appears that Arizona and Kansas are requiring that when people register to vote in a registration drive, they produce their proof of citizenship. Like when the volunteers are out on the streetcorner. Not a lot of people carry their papers around with them, which is why it’s an issue. Me, I always went right to the clerk’s office to register, and so i brought identification documentation with me.
Sounds like a problem – I know the standard was essentially to sign a citizenship affidavit. But I still think that states have the right to require reasonable proof of citizenship.
Take good care, and may God bless us all!
TGY
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Showing an ID when you vote is not forcing you to re-prove you are a citizen, it is asking you to prove you are who you say you are.
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You misunderstand. I’ve always shown ID when I show up to vote, to prove that I’m the same fellow who registered. My comment about having to re-prove my citizenship is in response to some proposals, admittedly not included here, that would require just that – that even after documenting their citizenship at registration, citizens should have to prove not only their identity and residence to the pollworkers, but their citizenship as well.
Can you imagine people having to lug the family Bible, with its written documentation of people’s birth, to the polls to prove citizenship? And then getting into an argument with a poll worker over whether or not such a record is legally valid? And what if your parents live in a different election district and need the Bible as well?
But this is starting to sound like a straw man. We should have to prove citizenship upon registration, and only identity and residence when we vote. I understand the problem the rules create for voter registration drives, because many people don’t carry proof of citizenship with them in their daily pursuits. Maybe signing an affidavit of citizenship is the right way to go.
TGC and may God bless us all!
TGY
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Oh, okay. I did misunderstand what you were saying.
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OK then. I bring ID when applying for food stamps, welfare, section eight housing , Medicare but not when applying to vote. Makes sense to me.
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Nobody said not to bring ID when you go to the clerk’s office to register to vote. The problem for the idealists is that when they run voter registration drives, the people who register ARE citizens but don’t carry that documentation with them.
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Well they should be required to carry identification with them. With the dead, the illegals and the stupid voting no stone should remain unturned in the effort to minimize voter fraud at any level.
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Well, that’s an interesting observation. So if I understand you correctly, everyone should carry identification? Or proof of citizenship?
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As to your other observation that dead and illegal people are voting, there’s never been substantive, objective proof offered that this is the case – it’s a fantasy dreamed up to justify attempts to keep certain citizens from voting.
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No, it’s not an unproven fantasy. It has been documented ad infinitum, too many to list. And no one who has a VALID drivers licence need be excluded. You have to have it to buy cigarettes or alcohol, but not to vote? They need to create a “face palm” emoticon.
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LOL – yeah, documented ad infinitum by my friend Gerry’s wife’s sister-in-law, who heard from her hairdresser that her husband heard about a busload of Somalis who showed up at a a polling station in a bordering county and they all voted without ID.
I keep hearing about all this “proof” and it always seems to be vaporous.
How many people have been charged with in-person voter fraud? How many have been convicted?
And I hope you know that there are tons of citizens who have no business driving motor vehicles of any kind, including the handicapped, the blind, and the elderly.
I agree with you, by the way, that if a person DOES have a valid driver’s license, the discussion os over – that person should produce it for inspection at the polling place, as I do, to prove both identity and residence. But when a person has been voting with different forms of ID for decades, as many have, I think it’s wrong to change the rules on them, especially so late in the day.
Take good care and may Gob bless us all!
TGY
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When more votes are cast than the registered population figures show, what in Hell else could it be if not voter fraud??!!! If you 100% believe that there is not a significant problem with illegal votes, then I submit you have your head in the sand.
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But we are supposed to ignore the anomaly Joe!
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dream on….
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Reblogged this on Cmblake6's Weblog and commented:
Again too long since I went to this site. Damn I’ve missed reblogging some good ones! This, for example, is an extremely good discussion of voter ID requirements, along with the consideration of the 10th Amendment regarding states rights. Read it. It is short and direct. For an example, the 2nd Amendment would be directly considered to over rule that 10th Amendment regarding firearm restrictions. However, the 10th controls voter ID requirements should a state wish to impose them.
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Thank you and welcome back!
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Sorry it’s been so long. You write good stuff!
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No problem and thanks.
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Thumbs up, brother.
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Reblogged this on disturbeddeputy and commented:
It’s about time for a sensible ruling on this. Not that it changes my general feeling toward the black-robed mafia.
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Thank you.
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Reblogged this on Cold Dead Hands Days and commented:
Good
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Thanks for the reblog.
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