Can you catch Ebola from sitting next to someone on a bus or can’t you? The CDC gives conflicting messages
That seems like an easy question to answer but we have heard conflicting opinions on this. The CDC has not exactly covered themselves in glory while trying to deal with Ebola.
Here is the latest baffling statement made by CDC director Tom Frieden:
“I think there are two different parts of that equation,” he continued. “The first is, if you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried that you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.”
“Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you,” he said.
So, according to this statement; if you are healthy you should not be concerned with catching Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but if you might have Ebola you should not ride the bus because you could expose someone to the disease.
So which is it and what are we not being told?
America's Watchtower 
Here is my best understanding of the situation.
If you are on a bus and someone with Ebola sneezes, vomits, spits, bleeds, pees, shits or sweats on you, you have a problem. If they only sit quietly a few rows away from you, you will be ok.
If you manage to avoid contact with any of the bodily fluids emanating from an Ebola patient, you will be ok.
I find it especially hopeful that none of the 48 people who lived with, visited or interacted with Mr. Duncan (RIP) have, after two weeks, shown any sign of infection. At this point it is quite possible, even likely, that none of them have been infected and they certainly had considerable contact with Mr. Duncan when he was gravely ill.
Thank G-d that mosquitoes, fleas, bed bugs, etc. do not appear to be transmission vectors for Ebola.
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That makes me feel a little better but I wonder why there is nobody in the regime who can explain it this way. I guess ineptitude breeds ineptitude…
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Hay Dr., I like the way you were able to translate the euphemism ” you might have a problem” into the reality of “sneezes, vomits, spits, bleeds, pees, shits or sweats”. The truth certainly takes some of the mystery out of government double-speak.
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Dr. J, you left out the all knowing roach!!! I listened to the CDC head with amazement! IF you get on a bus and have Ebola, you might give it someone IF you get sick? WHAT? Why would I want to chance sitting next to someone on a bus that might be sick?
Oh a positive note, Obama just may not be doing much campaigning or fund raising in the near future because of the fear HE might get Ebola. Do I think he didn’t go yesterday or today so he could stay behind and actually ACT like a President,,,,no! OR, the Dems. that are up for election just plain do not want him there.
Now, we hear that we can send our National Guard to a FOREIGN COUNTRY, but we just cannot seem to put them on our border. WTF?
Mr. CDC head also said if we do not allow the planes to come in, the illegals or sick people will just come across the borders, like all the rest of the illegals. Boy did he stick his foot in his mouth on that one. Do not know how he can spin it another way. We know the borders are open and now he all but said the same.
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Lou, did you hear Obola say yesterday that he hugged and kissed the staff and he is fine. What more do you want? Might just as well close the CDC, after all, if Obola says the science is settled, it is settled.
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Bruce, yes he said that, BUT it was before Mr Duncan came to American. Guess he was hoping that no one would notice the time frame. Now, I bet we see him going to Camp David alot and staying put at the White House. He is basically a chicken shit at heart. He is not going to put himself in any danger by going to any place.that is not sanitized!
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There is quite a bit of double talk going on here, and you mentioned another one Lou with the whole notion that if we banned travel it would make us less safe. The more they talk they more inept they seem.
Perhaps that is why Obama is cancelling fundraisers.
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“The CDC has not exactly covered themselves in glory while trying to deal with Ebola. ”
That;s the understatement of the year, Steve. 🙂
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Yes it is! LOL!
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It’s a matter of wanting to communicate instead of sounding good. I’ve said nothing that wasn’t in the official statement, I just reworded it for clarity.
I’ve also been following who among those exposed becomes infected. If few or none of the 48 exposed to Mr. Duncan show symptoms within the next 5 days, that will be very hopeful for all of us.
The Ace-in-the-hole for all of us here in the U.S. is our relatively high standard of hygiene compared to West Africa. Take a look at some pictures from Freetown in Sierra Leone. It’s easy to see the difference. If Ebola can be stopped under African conditions, we can certainly stop it here. That does not mean that people won’t become infected and die, it just means the number will be fairly small.
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Maybe you should be the Surgeon General, you are a better communicator than anyone in the Obama regime seems to be. 🙂
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Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.
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Thank you.
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I can’t believe that taxpayer money supports these clowns. This is a problem that has the potential to become a biblical sized one.
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I hope this is being over hyped but I do not think it is.
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It is not. CDC doesn’t know what they are doing. They are too busy doing lap dances for Barry on the msm. The CDC should have been working on a response when back in the summer not after the fact that it is here now.
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I don’t think it is being over hyped either.
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Easy Norman. It does have the potential to be a disaster of Biblical proportions, BUT there is no evidence at this time that says it will be a significant problem outside of the 3rd World.
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It takes a village, an African village that is to spread Ebola? Well then maybe once President Obola has used his namesake disease scare to collapse wirld markets we will sink into a worldwide African village open to all diseases known to mankind. May hus legacy live on.
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Two items in this article are important.
1. Check out the pictures of the areas in Africa where they’re working to stop Ebola.
2. Between 46% and 71% of the population may be naturally immune to Ebola. This is hot and new.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2795249/could-immune-ebola-scientists-claim-naturally-protected-virus-play-vital-role-stopping-spread.html
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Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
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Keep an open mind and read this. I know that the people in these countries were treating with colloidal silver and the government put a stop to it, as if anything else has been working. However, read this and see what you think. I already know what it can be used for:
http://www.familyhealthnews.com/alternative-health-information/minerals-vitamins-proteins/colloidal-silver-fabulous-facts.html
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Thanks for the link, I don’t have time to check it out tonight but will when I get a chance.
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One thing that Dr Jeff does not cover is that the majority of hospitals are not equipped to handle Ebola patients, even so, the cost is prohibitive. Apparently we will be taking care of numerous additional patients from Africa no matter what. So healthcare workers will continue be at risk. This whole thing is disastrous economically. Because we don’t know the real intentions.
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I think that is a real concern as well!
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Read past the headlines.
Look at the lack of sanitary facilities and habits in Africa. Despite having horrible sanitary conditions and minimal access to modern medical facilities, they have stopped every Ebola outbreak since 1975. African sanitary conditions facilitate the transmission of every kind of disease including Ebola.
We have unbelievably huge advantages in containing it.
Look at the 48 people, including people in the same apartment, who were in contact with Thomas Duncan before he was hospitalized. Most people who catch Ebola show symptoms within 7 to 10 days. It has now been 2-1/2 weeks and NONE of the people have shown symptoms. In a few more days, they will be considered safe.
Ebola is a nasty disease, but it can be dealt with and it is NOT readily transmissible under the conditions found in American cities.
I could go on for pages, citing many instances of where Ebola has transmitted and not transmitted to make my point. Please, do some of your own research so you can confirm what I am telling you.
Don’t give in to panic.
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I worked in Healthcare management until recently. There is no way in hell our community hospitals could possibly manage an Ebola patient. Just consider the lab work alone, Dialysis, intubations. Consider the cost of these struggling hospitals to acquire all of the get ups in dress requirements. Consider the cost of treating one of these patients. We have a couple of Intensive care units. These would have to be given to one pt, What would happen to our regular patients.
There needs to be designated Hospitals. Pts need to go there. Pts should be triaged at an entrance point to the Hospitals. Any questions and they should not enter the main Emergency area.
Yes, the couple of Hospitals that have done well had advanced technology setups already in place. That is why they did so well. The rest of us will not be so lucky.
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As long as any significant degree of isolation is maintained, it will not be an epidemic. Those infected need only be isolated from the rest of us.
Unless a blood transfusion or Z-MAPP is available, at best a “mere” 40+% of them will die. Between 10% and 20% of the health care workers will die.
Even in Africa, that’s how they’ve managed to stop every Ebola epidemic of the last 40 years.
As horrible as it will be for those infected, for 99% of us, it will be nothing more than a headline.
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Meanwhile my family member who works in the E.R. will have to deal with their puke and feces. How many of the 1 percent do you think will remain on the job?
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That’s an honest question. The worst infection rates have been among caregivers. Anyone who cares for Ebola patients is showing uncommon courage.
I am not saying that people won’t die or that everything will be business as usual. It’s a horrible disease with a worse mortality rate than getting shot with a 45. People will get it, some will die and people all around them will face huge disruptions and fear.
The only point I’m trying to stress is that we will not be faced with a nationwide or even a citywide epidemic.
We just don’t have the crowded and unsanitary conditions that spread Ebola through the population in Africa.
In Africa, the Ebola hospitals are basically 3 sets of tents surrounded by barbed wire. The three groups are: 1) Low Risk – possibly exposed, but likely to be ok. 2) High Risk – exposed with high likelihood of infection. 3) Active Cases – people sick with Ebola.
The actual care received by the patients is minimal, far below any standard we’re accustomed to. It’s a brutal system, but it works.
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So they do triage on them, is what you are saying. You are correct that we have a better system of cleanliness here than any of those countries have. I guess my problem is that this Administration is not willing to stop flights or passengers from the affected countries or to close our borders. They have people in control that have no business being there. Listening to them, I believe you could pull in “Joe” off the street and have him do the job they are doing. This is not unique to just the medical field, but overall, in this Administration.
I was asking the other day about a Surgeon General, basically a spokesperson, we do have an acting one, but we are not hearing from him . I think the biggest fear that is going on is that we do not trust what we are being told. The message that is being put out is done in a way that we do not trust the messenger, as well.
Having an authority figure that is believable would go a long way to stop the panic that is starting to happen.
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Dr Jeff: I just posted Bill Whittle’s latest video about why we should not fear ebola and it has some interesting facts. I think you will enjoy it.
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On the lighter side, I have to say that every time I see the title of this thread, I can’t help think of “the movie” in 6th grade. “Can you catch Ebola from (a toilet seat) or can’t you?
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LOL! By the way, I just posted Bill Whittle latest and it is about why should not fear Ebola. I think you will find it interesting.
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