Study finds non-citizens do vote in United States elections
Not that this news is going to come as a surprise to too many people but a new study has been released which shows that non-citizens do vote in United States elections.
They write, “we bring real data from big social science survey datasets to bear on the question of whether, to what extent, and for whom non-citizens vote in U.S. elections. Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races.”
The percentage is small:
“How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.”
Numbers that small could not possibly affect the outcome of an election, or could it?
In Minnesota, the 2008 Senate race between Al Franken and Norm Coleman was decided by 312 votes. Just .65 percent of Minnesota’s non-citizen population, barely 10 percent of the rate of non-citizens they found voted that year, pulled the lever for Franken, that could have been the difference.
They find similar possibilities in President Obama’s slim victory in North Carolina.
Despite the claim made by the left that in-person voter fraud is so minuscule it cannot change the outcome of an election we can see that it does not take much if these illegal immigrants are strategically placed.
Just last week we learned that illegal immigrants placed in North Carolina through the Obama regime’s DACA policy were found on the voting rolls. In addition to North Carolina, we know that illegal immigrants from the recent surge were also placed through DACA in Texas and Oklahoma. Why do you think those states were chosen?
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I am really, really tired of hearing the Democrats complain about how Voter ID laws are disenfranchising minority voters. Even if the problem is small, and I am not convinced it is, it still exists. Any number of fraudulent votes is too many. It really is that simple and the fact that the Democrats are not willing to admit that tells us all we need to know.
As for why some DACA immigrants were placed in Texas and Oklahoma, let me give you a hint. My home state is Oklahoma and we are arguably the most conservative state in America. The liberal bleeding hearts who thrive on illegal immigration are not satisfied with corrupting their own states; they insist on doing what they can to corrupt ours as well.
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Exactly what I was alluding to Larry!
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If you’re concerned about fraudulent voting, you should look into absentee balloting.
Oh. I forgot – most absentee ballots are cast for Republican candidates.
Sorry.
Take good care, and may God bless us all.
TGY
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I don’t have a problem with absentee voting if the person voting early really is going to be out of the state on election day, however I do have a problem with the whole early voting issue the way it is currently being used for it opens up the system for abuse.
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Steve, my issue isn’t with the concept of absentee balloting, it’s with the much greater potential it offers for fraud. All the safeguards supposedly being built into the system for in-person voting are conspicuously absent from absentee balloting.
As to early voting, what abuse?
TGY
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When I say abuse I mean fraud. I think we are on the same page here in that there is a greater potential for fraud.
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The Daily Caller, Steve? Come on, you’re better than that.
Here’s one of the reasons why: the following sentence from the DC piece: “Just .65 percent of Minnesota’s non-citizen population, barely 10 percent of the rate of non-citizens they found voted that year, pulled the lever for Franken, that could have been the difference.”
It’s not just that the sentence is gramatically incorrect, it’s that it seems to be trying to claim that tthat .65 percent of non-citizen voters actually did vote for Franken.
Here’s how the study’s authors characterized it: “Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin.” Even accounting for Hunter’s slovenly writing, he appears to be trying to say that the thing happened, while the study’s authors say it might have happened.
Note that the DC article also omits a glaring finding reported by the authors:
“We also find that one of the favorite policies advocated by conservatives to prevent voter fraud appears strikingly ineffective. Nearly three quarters of the non-citizens who indicated they were asked to provide photo identification at the polls claimed to have subsequently voted.”
The problem appears to me to be one of registration, not proper identification at the polling place. I think as time progresses and our technology and data-management techniques become more sophisticated, it’ll be easier to know who’s a citizen and who’s not. Honestly, I think that signing an affadavit of citizenship during the registration process, as I understand is permitted in some places, is insufficient. Not because of potential fraud so much as because of ignorance of the law. When people register to vote, they should prove their citizenship positively, preferably by means of a birth certificate. The only purpose of a photo ID is to identify the person showing up to vote is the same person who’s registered to vote, NOT to prove citizenship.
Take good care and may God bless us all.
TGY
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I noticed the grammatical error as well, however the DC article says it COULD have changed the vote not that it DID change the vote. While the DC article used this to push voter ID and the original article said voter ID would not have changed the outcome you will notice that I did not use it to push voter ID. I was simply trying to show what I see as a problem, and possibly a motive behind, the DACA program.
But seeing how you raised the issue of voter ID: These new immigrants are being bused into communities and in some cases it appears as if one of the first things they are doing is registering to vote. How is that? These immigrants are from foreign countries so how do they know where to go to register and who is helping them to register? Surely most of them don’t know the process so somebody must be helping them. Whoever is helping them knows the names and addresses of the people who are helping them so without voter ID it is plausible that somebody could use this information to vote for the immigrant.
Thank you for the constructive criticism, I will try to use the original article wherever possible and in fact in my latest post on the IRS I found the story on DC but used the NYT article for the post. Surely you do not have a problem with the NYT…
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Thank you again!
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