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Jonathan Gruber admits to “mislabeling” the Cadillac tax in a 6th video

November 14, 2014

  CNN has written an article about a 6th Jonathan Gruber video which has surfaced and this one relates once again to the deception used to pass the Cadillac tax. (I thought there were only four known previous videos but let that go.)

  In this latest video he talks about how “mislabeling” the Cadillac tax to make it appear as if the insurers paid the tax and not the insured allowed the regime to pass the tax.

  Here is more:

“It turns out politically it’s really hard to get rid of,” Gruber said. “And the only way we could get rid of it was first by mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it’s a tax on people who hold those insurance plans.”

   Of course many of us realize that when the cost of doing business or providing a service is increased the cost will ultimately be paid by the persons acquiring the service or buying the product, (I would guess the only people who do not realize this are the ones who think they are sticking it to the man), but that did not stop the White House from making a claim to the contrary when questioned on this at a press briefing in 2010:

The White House press secretary said at a press briefing in 2010: “I would disagree with your notion that it is a tax on an individual since the proposal is written as a tax on an insurance company that offers a plan.”

  We now have proof the Obama regime knew this was a lie, they knew it the consumer would bear the burden of the tax increase. However the deception did not stop there, there is another way the law was manipulated to hide the tax:

The second way was have the tax kick in “late, starting in 2018. But by starting it late, we were able to tie the cap for Cadillac Tax to CPI, not medical inflation,” Gruber said. CPI is the consumer price index, which is lower than medical inflation.

Gruber explains that by drafting the bill this way, they were able to pass something that would initially only impact some employer plans though it would eventually hit almost every employer plan. And by that time, those who object to the tax will be obligated to figure out how to come up with the money that repealing the tax will take from the treasury, or risk significantly adding to the national debt.

“What that means is the tax that starts out hitting only 8% of the insurance plans essentially amounts over the next 20 years essentially getting rid of the exclusion for employer sponsored plans,” Gruber said. “This was the only political way we were ever going to take on one of the worst public policies in America.”

  They knew that by the time the tax was fully implemented it would be too late and the people who were faced with the higher costs would have no choice but to come up with the money. Nice, huh?!

 But the kicker is the last line in the above quote: “This was the only political way we were ever going to take on one of the worst public policies in America.”

  Did not Barack Obama promise that our taxes would not be raised a single dime when he was running for office the first time around…

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  1. Dr. Jeff's avatar
    Dr. Jeff permalink
    November 14, 2014 8:09 pm

    I have a Liberal acquaintance I haven’t talked to in a while. Back when Obamacare was being debated, he told me directly that the only possible reason anyone could oppose it (or anything else from Obama), was because I was “…scared of a strong Black man.”

    I may call him up to needle him about these videos.

    Just by how much was being hidden at the time (remember: “We’ve got to pass the bill to find out what’s in the bill.”?), anyone with a semi functioning brain knew it had to be a stinking pile of crap.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 14, 2014 10:25 pm

      I think you should give him a call about this, it would be interesting to see what he had to say. If he has even heard about it that is. Pelosi’s quote is quite relevant today, isn’t it?

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  2. bunkerville's avatar
    November 14, 2014 8:31 pm

    The media is starting to pick this up a bit. I can’t wait until we have a hearing or two. The media won’t be able to deny it. CNN had Jay Carney’s remarks about it.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 14, 2014 10:28 pm

      Hopefully this is going to reach the point where they cannot ignore it, but that will take quite a bit. But at least they are starting to pick up on it. There is no doubt in my mind that at this point there needs to be an investigation.

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  3. lou222's avatar
    lou222 permalink
    November 15, 2014 8:18 am

    I am sure the reason they are picking it up is two-fold, they do not want to be left behind while the others are running with it AND it is starting to effect those that work there. Any way you look at it, if the alphabet programs are start talking about it, Obama and his Administration are in trouble. Those are the programs that the lo-fo’s listen to and will believe.
    Whoever this guy is that is bringing these videos out is right up there with the best! It is being done to where the media and this Administration has little to no time to run cover and is starting to let things slip that was not planned on being said.
    I think, maybe we are going to start seeing alot of people coming out saying they had nothing to do with Obamacare and maybe start ratting out the ones that did. We know that Obama was top of the list, but having someone step up and bust him for it remains to be seen. I doubt that we can rely on McConnell or Boehner, they are both back pedaling alot lately, they are also giving Obama ammo. He is not backing down, but doubling down, that should send up a red flag, but the RINOs just do not seem to have it in them to come out swinging. Unless the younger crowd in the Republican party starts a take over, we will have Obama ruling the House and Senate even thought they were won by us. Obama has some pretty savvy handlers, wonder if they can pull this one off for him?

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 15, 2014 8:52 am

      I think some of the videos that have come out since the first one have been by average people who are now scouring through youbtube trying to find them. Sad that we cannot rely on the media to do this but at least we now have the means to do it ourselves. In years passed nobody would have ever seen any of these videos.

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      • lou222's avatar
        lou222 permalink
        November 15, 2014 9:54 am

        Maybe that is why Obama wants net control? Hmmmm? Of course while we are focusing on this what the hell is this Administration doing behind our backs? With Obama over seas, he might be enacting more stuff that we do not know about and will find out when he deems it necessary for us to know.
        If only we had powerful leaders in our party! We have some young ones, but they are being held back by the ones in charge….we need to change that, we need to figure out how!
        Isn’t it funny how all the videos always have an answer that they misspoke or such? I have never heard of that many people that speak out of line and then have to make sure you know they did!
        We have the “power of the purse” and we are going to set it aside and I have a feeling we are going to try “bi-partisanship”, just to show how we want to all get along….they forget that WE do NOT want to get along anymore!
        I have grown tired of this President, it is time for him to leave along with his entire staff!!!!

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      • Steve Dennis's avatar
        November 15, 2014 1:36 pm

        That is exactly why he wants to get his fingers on the internet! It is the last bastion of free speech and he finds it to be a threat. It is funny that you mentioned what is going on behind our backs because I was just thinking this morning that I have focused on this so much that there must be something else going on that we don’t know about yet.
        As far as strong Republican leadership goes; I am now of the belief that both parties are actually on the same side, they created this conflicts to get us up in arms and then do what they want to. This is called the Hegelian Dialectic and it works beautifully.

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  4. lou222's avatar
    lou222 permalink
    November 15, 2014 10:22 am

    I have been thinking more about this Gruber! Is he being used to cover for Obama? It seems kind of funny that now all these videos are surfacing and he is at the head of the problem? I guess it is no wonder he is starting to sing. I think it goes all the way to Obama and he is to blame. They are going to let this guy get buried by the media and be blamed for what he was paid to do. So, where do you think the blame lies?

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    • zip's avatar
      November 15, 2014 12:53 pm

      Since it is ‘surfacing’ and he’s being ‘allowed’ to talk, ‘we the people’ have to figure that ‘we the life sucking conglomeration’ have their ill reasons. If Gruber was not supported by them he would’ve had an ‘accident’ by now … like many of the recent Bankers. This ‘Crowning Dynasty’ group have a big carpet – they need one to cover it all.
      Covering Obola probably isn’t their concern – they have their Biden trump card.

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    • Steve Dennis's avatar
      November 15, 2014 1:37 pm

      I have been thinking the same thing this morning. I realized how focused I have become on this and it makes me wonder if this is the deception being used to divert our attention from something else. This story cannot be ignored but I get the feeling there is something else going on.

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      • zip's avatar
        November 16, 2014 1:02 pm

        Like ‘boots on the ground’ in Syria, and 1500 more troops to Iraq. The Central Bankers and Cabals are forcing another War, using American troops to do their dirty work – AGAIN – taking out leaders who are ‘against them’ and replacing them with their loyal ‘puppets’ … like Obala.

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  5. lou222's avatar
    lou222 permalink
    November 15, 2014 10:26 am

    Here is a bit more information about Obamacare and what it will cost if you do NOT sign up for it:
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/your-children-will-be-fined-if-you-fail-to-sign-up-for-obamacare-people-are-going-to-be-in-for-a-shock.html

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