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Is polygamy the next battle to be fought on marriage equality?

July 2, 2015

  Is polygamy the next battle to be fought on marriage equality? The answer to that question is yes if a Montana man has his way but what is interesting is that he is actually using Chief Justice John Roberts dissent as his motivation.

  Nathan Collier has two wives which he married in separate religious ceremonies, however he did not obtain a marriage license for his second wife so that he could avoid bigamy charges. He feels as if his second wife is not legitimate in the eyes of the law and he is hoping to use John Roberts dissent as justification to acquire the marriage license he has up until this point been unable to legally obtain. 

  Here is more:

A Montana man said Wednesday that he was inspired by last week’s U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage to apply for a marriage license so that he can legally wed his second wife.

Nathan Collier and his wives Victoria and Christine applied at the Yellowstone County Courthouse in Billings on Tuesday in an attempt to legitimize their polygamous marriage. Montana, like all 50 states, outlaws bigamy – holding multiple marriage licenses – but Collier said he plans to sue if the application is denied.

“It’s about marriage equality,” Collier told The Associated Press Wednesday. “You can’t have this without polygamy.”

The Supreme Court’s ruling on Friday made gay marriages legal nationwide. Chief Justice John Roberts said in his dissent that people in polygamous relationships could make the same legal argument that not having the opportunity to marry disrespects and subordinates them.

Collier, 46, said that dissent inspired him. He owns a refrigeration business in Billings and married Victoria, 40, in 2000. He and his second wife, Christine, had a religious wedding ceremony in 2007 but did not sign a marriage license to avoid bigamy charges, he said.

“We just want to add legal legitimacy to an already happy, strong, loving family,” Nathan Collier told KTVQ.

“We’re not even asking for acceptance, we’re just asking for tolerance. Let us live our lives together without fear,” said Nathan Collier.

“My second wife Christine, who I’m not legally married to, she’s put up with my crap for a lot of years. She deserves legitimacy,” he said.

“It’s two distinct marriages, its two distinct unions, and for us to come together and create family, what’s wrong with that?” said Christine. “I don’t understand why it’s looked upon and frowned upon as being obscene.”

   This is just the beginning but in all honesty in light of the recent Supreme Court ruling, and coupled with the argument gay marriage proponents have been using for years, it is hard to see how there can be any justification to deny him and his second wife a marriage license. They cannot control who they fall in love with, or how many people they fall in love with, right?

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

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  1. July 2, 2015 8:42 pm

    Reblogged this on Brittius and commented:
    The battle for polygamy, most likely, will be fought sometime after gay marriage, but before beastiality and incest.

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    • July 3, 2015 6:19 am

      Thank you and you can bet that at some point the battle will turn to those fields as well.

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      • July 3, 2015 6:33 am

        You’re welcome.

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  2. July 2, 2015 9:06 pm

    No question about it. Brothers and Sisters, next?

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    • lou222 permalink
      July 2, 2015 9:19 pm

      Nope, Bunker, cats and dogs!

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      • July 3, 2015 6:20 am

        Only a matter of time Lou.

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    • July 3, 2015 6:20 am

      Yes that will be next at some point.

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  3. Zip-a-Dee permalink
    July 3, 2015 12:34 am

    One thing begets another … esp. on the slippery slope to Hades!
    Breaking down the moral fiber and fabric of a society is one the commie rules.
    If there’s no ‘foundational guidelines’ or base, soon even the grossest act and madness will be accepted as long as the Agenda isn’t threatened. The only way the Agenda can be stopped is if godly people – people not enslaved by the lie but rather stand for truth – start doing something – pray yes, but step up to the plate … before it’s gone. This explains it pretty well:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/ReviewManify/videos?&ab_channel=Redsilverj

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    • Zip-a-Dee permalink
      July 3, 2015 12:35 am

      That is TOTALLY THE WRONG LINK! You can watch it if you like to BUT THIS IS THE LINK I mean to use oops!

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    • July 3, 2015 6:22 am

      Some people like to claim the slippery slope argument is not a real argument but it is true and we are going to see more and more groups start looking for their right to marry as we go foward.

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      • lou222 permalink
        July 3, 2015 7:59 am

        Did you get off work today? Hope you have an enjoyable weekend. I am going to my brothers tomorrow to watch fireworks down there. Should be a nice drive home (2 hours) and maybe catch some towns along the Interstate that are still putting up some fireworks.

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      • July 3, 2015 8:05 am

        I have today off because the 4th falls on Saturday, long weekend for me! Hope you have a good trip, it would be cool to see fireworks along the highway as you drive home.
        We have our annual cookout and fireworks display tomorrow. This year I got a little more than usual so I cannot wait!

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      • lou222 permalink
        July 3, 2015 1:48 pm

        Watch those sparklers, they are HOT! Enjoy your evening, sounds good on the “annual” part….we used to do that when I was growing up. Now, everyone is all over the place, guess that happens.
        I might even put the top down, will create a “bad hair” trip, but what the hell. Will be prettier that way if I see anything.

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      • July 3, 2015 7:41 pm

        Hair be damned! Can’t wait to light off the fireworks, this is my favorite holiday!

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      • lou222 permalink
        July 3, 2015 7:56 pm

        I am sure all the “kids” in us love to set certain fireworks off, not sure if we ever did out grown that ability to be amazed at what they will do. If we are not careful, this may be our last July 4th….you know what I mean!

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      • July 3, 2015 8:25 pm

        Yes I do know what you mean, we have to enjoy it while we still can!

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  4. July 3, 2015 11:12 am

    Polygamy (polyamory?), which for a long time was the Biblical standard of marriage, has a better chance than bestiality because animals cannot give consent; likewise, the nature of the relationship that exists among members of a family unit make it difficult, if not impossible, to give consent to a romantic relationship to supplant the filial one.

    However, just out of intellectual curiosity, what would be the objection to brother and sister marrying if childbearing age has passed? By the same token, what’s the objection today of two brothers marrying each other? Or two sisters?

    An interesting can of worms we’ve opened, indeed!

    Take good care, and may God bless us all!

    TGY

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    • July 3, 2015 7:46 pm

      I think your comment on bestiality was meant as tongue in cheek but I will bite because so was mine. Of course animals cannot give consent so this is not a logical argument but the same can be said for pedophilia. The fear mongers who say this will lead to pedophilia being legalized are also ignoring the consent issue because they want to use the slippery slope argument but it does not hold water.
      It will be interesting to see if there are any women organizations which oppose polygamy on the grounds that it is disrespectful to women but you are correct when you state this was a Biblical standard at one time so it will be hard for those who oppose marriage for religious reasons to oppose this.

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      • July 3, 2015 7:48 pm

        The bottom line in my opinion is that the government should not even be involved in the issue of marriage, if it were not this would not have been an issue in the first place.

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  5. Bruce permalink
    July 3, 2015 11:59 am

    I seem to remember a slogan some time ago saying, ” If it feels good, do it”. That seems to be the point of Justice Kennedy’s ruling, so I don’t see how any legal limit can now be put on the ‘feels good’ argument. I have a liberal/libertarian friend who has always been consistent on this issue: do who or what you want.
    But I am disgusted by those who have argued that one can’t lead to another. As Zip and Steve said, the “slippery slope” argument is always dismissed by the left.
    Micheal Medved often told the story of his mother and her sister after his father passed. They were married in every possible way except for the ceremony and marital bed. He would often ask why that wasn’t alright if gay marriage was.
    We are entering an era where the left wants to be the arbitrator every aspect of our lives.

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    • July 3, 2015 7:49 pm

      I think the slippery slope will eventually lead to polygamy however I don’t see it going to pedophilia or bestiality due to consent. But I suppose one never knows…

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  6. July 6, 2015 11:12 am

    I doubt that polygamy would be a battle ground. Polygamous societies tend become patriarchal and polygynist (one man, multiple women). Liberals would oppose it on those grounds. Plus, there is a big issue with property rights, it would not be as clear cut who gets what property in the event of death and divorce.

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