Chris Christie attacks Rand Paul over NSA domestic spying program
With the exception of Rand Paul, and possibly Ted Cruz, (who did vote to extend the PATRIOT Act) it seems as if all the Republican candidates for President are perfectly fine with trampling our Fourth Amendment rights in order to keep us safe from terrorism. I AM NOT! Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium…
The latest selective Constitutionalist Republican candidate for President in 2016, Chris Christie, has now come out swinging against Rand Paul for his stance on the NSA and his defense of the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.
I cannot post the video directly but you can watch Chris Christie in all his arrogance and condescension here if you so choose to do so.
In this video he accuses Rand Paul of making America more vulnerable to terrorist attacks after Rand Paul is shown on video as saying “your phone records are none of the government’s damn business.” That is a statement I could not agree with more but if you watch the video you will see that Chris Christie is nothing more than a Republican establishment nanny state big government elitist who thinks he knows what is best for we plebeians and pissants.
He accuses Rand Paul of making a political issue out of the NSA spying program in order to raise money, and maybe he is, but he is the only candidate standing up for the Fourth Amendment and the Constitution and I think it tells us more about Chris Christie that he is offended by this than it tells us about Rand Paul for doing so.
The bottom line is this: despite Chris Christie’s admonition, the Fourth Amendment and the Constitution should be a political issue in this election cycle and the fact that all of the Republican candidates, with the exception of Rand Paul, would rather ignore it than explain their overt willingness to shit on the Constitution when it forwards their agenda is all I need to know about where these candidates truly stand when it comes to the very foundation on which this country was founded…
I would remind Chris Christie that the court has already ruled that the NSA spying program is illegal, but of course that does not matter to the fear mongering elitists who feel as if there is no limit to how far the government can go when it comes to hiding behind the veil of national security.
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New Jersey’s Incredible Bulk has time and again proven himself to be the archetypical RINO. From his appointing an Al Qaida connected judge to the NJ Supreme Court to his lip lock with Obama at the NJ shore his arrogance continues as he attempts to explain away his 35% approval rating in the Garden State. He would make a good Democrat. Maybe Hillary will appoint him as her nutrition Czar. As a fellow water buffalo he can’t do any worse than his pal Mooch.
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I guess he is the best we could hope for in NJ but it seems as though his popularity in the state is also waning. He is a nanny state guy who thinks he is better than the rest of us and I cannot support him.
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His candidacy is a scam and a sham. We just haven’t determined yet why he is wasting his time.
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A diversion? Take votes away from another candidate? Ego?
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It is truly sad Laura so many blind to the concept that if a piece of paper, U.S. Constitution or not, gives you your rights it can also take back those rights. If God given then only God can take them back. Our founding fathers understood that so the rhetorical question is why is it only half of us today understand this simple idea?
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Even though your question was rhetorical, I’ll answer. It’s because they take the word of other people. They listen to teaches, parents, the media, politicians, others they look up to. They don’t bother to actually look up the information themselves. They form a philosophy and stick to it, they won’t be dissuaded.
I provided facts for this person, he still refused to believe. That’s some hard-core denial. Pre-existing Rights don’t fit with his philosophy, so, therefore, they don’t exist.
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What these people seem to forget is that the Constitution does not grant us any rights but rather protects our rights from the government. These people have it backwards.
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I made that point, Steve. He still denied it. I even posted the IXth Amendment which references other Rights which aren’t listed in the BoR. He still said our Rights come from the Constitution.
Nothing one can do with people like that….
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Yeah, there really is nothing you can do with somebody like that. He does not understand because he has been told his whole life that the Constitution is what gives us our rights and to him you just sound like a radical.
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P.S. That’s a Muslim Al Qaida connected judge appointed to New Jersey’s highest court.
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Maybe chubby is another one of those clueless politicians who think Americans don’t care about their Constitutionally protected Rights and believes the Constitution is more like a ‘guideline’ rather than rules the government must obey….
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Sadly I think that these politicians are right and most Americans do not care about their rights, but it is because many of them do not understand the basic principles American was founded on…
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I was discussing another topic on another forum and a person actually said there’s no such thing as inherent Rights; that the Constitution grants us our Rights; that we have only the Rights listed in the Constitution.
I was dumbfounded, absolutely stunned speechless.
I cited the IXth Amendment, the DoI, and the BoR Preamble – which states the purpose of the BoR is to further restrict the government to prevent misconstruction and abuse of powers. He was adamant that our Rights come from the Constitution.
How do we counter-act this ignorance?
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There really is nothing you can do when you are up against someone like this I suppose. The whole concept is foreign to people like this and unless and until they take the time to educate themselves they will be lost. I think the best you can hope for is to point them in the right direction and hope they follow.
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You are correct, Steve. And, know when to quit trying with some people. 🙂
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Laura, there is a Federalist paper (#84 if I remember correctly) that essentially said that the Constitution was not intended to be a enumeration of our rights and that a Bill of Rights would be dangerous as people will come to believe that it a Bill of Rights would be seen as such an enumeration.
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Hamilton Federalist 84:
“I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.”
Of course, Hamilton was right. The government used the BoR to claim the authority to regulate our Rights, even though no power to regulate was delegated.
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It is amazing when you read what the Founders wrote and now they instinctively knew human nature and because of this they were able to predict what was going to happen.
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You gave it an honest try Laura, but I suppose you are better off focusing on the people who are on the bubble and can be persuaded because they actually will listen and try to get to the truth.
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Thanks Laura, I need to go back and read the Federalist papers again because it has been a long time and it is truly amazing how the Founders were able to see what was going to happen based on human nature.
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Well, Terrant was the one who mentioned Federalist 84, I just cited the relevant part. 🙂
I knew some Founders were against a BoR and that the IXth Amendment was to put in to allay some of their concerns.
It is amazing how the Founders knew what would happen.
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You are right, I should have given Terrant some credit there as well!
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Haha, this reminds be about the time in August a few years back on that never ending thread Steve had where that so call lady doctor that would not stop attacking, would not stop posting. It was on immigration, remember Steve? It went on and on and on until I think she finally left… you got all the ones (bleeding heart liberals) chiming in on the illegals only wanted a better life, but we could not convince them they were ILLEGAL, period….LAURA, there are just some people that will never even listen to reason OR facts and you just have to finally cut your losses.
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Reblogged this on Brittius.
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How is Christie even a serious contender? He openly admits that he stands against the Constitution.
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You were expecting something normal out of this bunch? Nothing is as it seems and we are being lied to on a daily basis, so how can we even begin to sort out what is true or false? Christie, once again, like most of the rest tell us what they think we want to hear and then do what they want and we just have to eat it….Staff Sergeant is it?
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