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Open thread for Sunday, August 16th: ‘Tangerine’

August 16, 2015

open-thread  Here is the open thread for Sunday, August 16th. Please feel free to post links to interesting articles and to discuss whatever issues arise during the course of the day. Nothing is off-topic here.

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  On our last night in Virginia we went to dinner at a place where there happened to be a man singing and playing acoustic guitar. He was playing mostly blues songs which I did not know but sprinkled in some classic rock as well. At one point he started playing a song which sounded instantly familiar but I could not put my finger on it right away. Eventually I realized it was a Zeppelin tune but I had to google the lyrics to come up with the title. It was ‘Tangerine.’

  Back in the days of my youth I was a huge Zeppelin fan but other than radio play I had not really listened to them in many years (thinking about it now I should have found a spot for this band in my top ten considering how much I loved them back then) and it has probably been 30 years since I heard this tune.

  Here is ‘Tangerine’ performed live in 1975, enjoy:

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  1. petermc3 permalink
    August 16, 2015 9:15 am

    How government works or does not work: A human interest story.
    During a visit to Hackensack University Medical Center in August, 2013, I met a 45 year old man with one leg. He explained that after working in construction since high school he had lost his leg in a job related accident the prior year. It took the state of New Jersey’s bureauracracy one full year to classify him as disabled and unable to work in his profession. During that year the state provided him with a Horizon Blue Cross health insurance policy and $300 per month in food stamps. Upon classifying him as disabled the state “GRANTED” him a $900.00 per month disability payment, took away his health insurance policy (he was now on charity care) and reduced his monthly food stamp allotment from$300.00 to $35.00. He would have been treated better had he come here illegally. Shame on New Jersey, shame on the U.S. For the shabby indifference afforded a citizen who pays taxes for over 25 years; not unlike the way our veterans are treated.

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    • lou222 permalink
      August 16, 2015 11:55 am

      This surprises anyone? The illegals are all but forced to take all the freebies. We cannot give it to them fast enough, but AMERICANS that need a bit of help have to jump thru hoops and have an attorney and then can count on being turned down the first few times they apply. I have seen it happen! Makes me sick, but that seems to be the way it will be from now on. The system is screwed up and we have let it happen over the years.
      Now I hear Trump saying he will not split up illegals, yes I said it ILLEGALS, but will send them packing back over the border, as a family. Is he the only one that is saying this? So, far I hear that we will slowly work them into the system so they can come out of the shadows…ya, will be interested to see how that works. I guess I am tired of paying taxes knowing that it is going out to someone that has come here illegally, while there are people that are doing the paperwork and would be assets to the country, but they are put on hold. What the hell is wrong with the system? I imagine we have to look no further than Obama!

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      • petermc3 permalink
        August 16, 2015 12:05 pm

        Can someone explain where these shadows exist? They’re pretty much out in the open here in Jersey sucking up entitlements like flies on shit.

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      • August 16, 2015 12:56 pm

        The Shadow Gov. has been ruling in America for some time and Bari is only one plant among the many.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 2:26 pm

        Peter, I guess the “shadows” is about an evasive a word as “they” are when we saw “they have done something, etc”. Somehow I am in agreement that the shadow illegals are sure the hell in our faces at Walmart or eating places

        Zip, we know that Obama is not the head guy, I doubt that Soros is the head guy and I bet we never find out who is actually calling the shots..

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      • August 16, 2015 6:31 pm

        Peter, when it comes to the illegals there are no shadows. They are all out in the open. However the video that Zip posted is spot on; there are shadows and it is the government which is operating in them.

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    • August 16, 2015 12:40 pm

      Yep, sad and unjust. It’s reflects the character of those ruling and who are in charge. This didn’t just happen over night. Every generations has the scum that needs to be cleaned out – like weeds, they propagate more than the cultured plants and require constant attention to dig them out, or they totally take over.

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    • August 16, 2015 6:25 pm

      Sadly Peter I think this is going to become the norm once single-payer is fully implemented. The government has to cut costs in order to pay for the illegals and citizens will suffer.

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  2. August 16, 2015 9:44 am

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    • August 16, 2015 10:25 am

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 2:49 pm

        Hey SDL! I like that tune, maybe it is the mandolin????

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      • August 16, 2015 6:45 pm

        Thanks for sharing SDL, you always manage to post something I have not heard before.

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      • August 16, 2015 7:52 pm

        A mellower one this time Swiss! Nice. There was a line in it about changing things in the past – if possible – which brought to mind something that might interest you: time travel. For time travel to be possible it means that the future already exist, or there wouldn’t be anything to go into. It’s a closed system in some aspect: a package. Movies like ‘Back to the Future’, ‘Fringe’ and all the others state that there’s somethings that can be changed in the past, but not everything – so there’s some flexibility to change things but there limitations too – unknown why. I’d not considered that before and this song brought it to mind, so I thought to share it with you. The old saying, ‘You can’t change the past, but you can change your future.’ To me that means realizing some truth that changes the way we consider things – look at life. I guess it could be taken in by a lie too, if that’s the case. Either would influence the choices we make that produce our future. How much of our future is flexible – may be similar to the limitations of changing the past – hummm. Seems that only the Creator knows all that.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 8:47 pm

        Such deep thoughts, Zip! I suppose anything is possible. There is so much we do not know, isn’t there? We are just a speck in the whole scope of things.

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      • August 17, 2015 5:46 am

        Hello All 🙂
        About Sundy Best :
        I discover this band among others not so long ago…
        I’m happy if I can bring something here, I feel that like me, People Here Listen to music as a part of their life, that be remembering the past enjoying the present expecting the future be it good or bad but often full of surprises..

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 17, 2015 7:58 am

        Another good one, thanks! Just listened to it this morning.

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    • August 17, 2015 5:48 am

      I remember seeing that ad about doctors smoking camels. Isn’t it funny how times have changed?!

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 17, 2015 8:01 am

        Didn’t I read somewhere that they were included, during WWII, in their rations? Either Pall Mall or Lucky Strike or Camel? Non-filtered.
        It would not surprise me, sometime in the future that they tell old people it is mandatory to smoke to bring on our demise…sounds stupid, but they flip flop back and forth on things that are bad for us become good for us. You know “a study finds” stuff.

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  3. August 16, 2015 12:08 pm

    Lou brought this to mind, with a previous comment, so here you go. Something that ‘appears’ to be but isn’t and that which isn’t is. (a bit of double-talk and mind twirl to set the mood!).

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    • lou222 permalink
      August 16, 2015 2:47 pm

      Well, that was different. I do remember all of it going on back then….I do have one question. At the beginning when all the kids are going thru the door, where are the thugs and why are they not rioting? Oh, that was then, this is now….different group of kids!

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      • August 16, 2015 3:06 pm

        I know. Look how ‘innocent’ they look, how ‘impressionable’. Those early (real) Beatles had more innocent songs (teenage lover and songs like ‘Help’). After ’66 (and the secret society taking them over – getting into their biz) their songs got into the drug culture – Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely heart band, with the weird album cover – all the ‘symbolic meanings’ – very different. Here’s one to tag w/ it: Rothschild-owned The Economist’s 2015 cover full of unsettling symbols

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 4:02 pm

        I will have to blow that image up tonight and really look at it. We know all over there are clues, suggestions, secret, whatever you want to call them that we over look most the time. If we paid closer attention, we might understand a little better what is happening to us. I guess everything is open to interpretation, but alot may be very in your face. What was that airport with all the evil stuff? One of you posted it about a week or so ago, maybe it was Denver??? I have slept since then, but that had alot of evil stuff to it.

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      • August 16, 2015 8:04 pm

        Sorry about that Lou – the scary one. Yes, the Denver airport has those murals inside the terminals. The Economist mag. has a lot of symbolism going on too and connects in that it’s so strange. I wouldn’t look at that stuff right before going to bed though … just a suggestion. 😊 Nice thoughts and good things are better to drift off to.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 8:50 pm

        You are assuming I sleep! It is more like I “doze”, never really get deep sleep for some reason. I listen to Mark Levin, Michael Savage and Red Eye Radio all night and doze.

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      • August 17, 2015 12:29 pm

        If I listen to them like that, I wouldn’t sleep sound either!!! That ‘sound’ sleep is important – gives our brains that necessary ‘processing time’! I feel better after a deep rest – more sound and rested.


    • August 16, 2015 6:42 pm

      Thanks for sharing that Zip. I have heard the rumor about the real Paul being dead for many years. While I don’t know about this I do know that the song “Imagine” is not about peace, it is about communism. I have told people about this for a long time and most of the lefties look at me like I am crazy while with most of the people on the right a light seems to go off in them and they realize the song is not about what people think it is.
      Just look at the lyrics: no countries, no God, and no possessions. It is clear cut to me what this song is really about.

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      • August 16, 2015 7:06 pm

        The melody/song is so nice … but the words and meaning so ugly. I’d not connected it to communism – rather atheism, but same thing I suppose. Enslaving.

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      • August 16, 2015 7:17 pm

        Atheism is key to communism as the people must believe the state is the highest power in order to control them.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 8:53 pm

        People all form their own opinions, there is the problem. One song and 10 different ways of interrupting the same song. We know, from experience that if someone is not open to different beliefs, it doesn’t happen.

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      • August 17, 2015 5:52 am

        I wonder how many people actually are influenced by the words in this song and don’t even realize it is out of the communist manifesto.

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  4. August 16, 2015 2:15 pm

    Zeppelin is my all-time favorite group. There are only a handful of their songs I don’t really like and Tangerine is one, lol. 🙂

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    • lou222 permalink
      August 16, 2015 2:51 pm

      Not a fan of that song, either…so many better ones than that, but hey, Steve likes it,,,so…..

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      • August 16, 2015 3:00 pm

        I briefly dated a man who was, also, a Zeppelin fanatic. He burned copies of all their CDs for me. I uploaded them to my laptop. On my laptop I have a few playlists: Zep; Zep favs; Zep fav favs. One could say I’m a little obsessed…. 😉

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 8:54 pm

        Copy cat!!!! 😉

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      • August 16, 2015 9:08 pm

        I know. It’s funny and catchy!

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    • August 16, 2015 6:44 pm

      I don’t know what it is about the song but I like it. But then again when it comes to music I easily tire of the ones that get played on the radio all the time.

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      • August 16, 2015 7:16 pm

        Zeppelin’s ‘popular’ songs aren’t my favorites. I like them, but I like lesser played songs better. The exception is, of course, Stairway to Heaven. I think it’s the greatest rock song of all time, with Bohemian Rhapsody a close second.

        Some of my favorites are, in no particular order:

        Misty Mountain Hop
        How Many More Times
        Travelling Riverside Blues
        Bring It On Home
        Black Mountainside
        Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
        Babe I’m Gonna Leave You
        Your Time Is Gonna Come
        I Can’t Quit You Baby
        Ten Years Gone
        The Rain Song
        Thank You
        Ramble On
        Since I’ve Been Loving You
        When The Levee Breaks
        Over The Hills And Far Away
        D’Yer Maker
        In My Time Of Dying

        Just a few of my favorite favorites… 😉

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      • August 16, 2015 7:19 pm

        Those are all great songs! Their first album is probably my favorite with the blues influence. My son and the singer of his band used to play acoustic in a couple of bars and they did a great version of The Rain Song.

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      • August 16, 2015 7:29 pm

        I like their songs with the heavy blues influence the best.

        The Rain Song is just so lovely…

        This is the springtime of my loving-
        the second season I am to know
        You are the sunlight in my growing-
        so little warmth I’ve felt before.
        It isn’t hard to feel me glowing-
        I watched the fire that grew so low.
        It is the summer of my smiles-
        flee from me Keepers of the Gloom.
        Speak to me only with your eyes
        it is to you I give this tune.
        Ain’t so hard to recognize-
        These things are clear to all from
        time to time. Ooooh…
        Talk Talk-
        I’ve felt the coldness of my winter
        I never thought it would ever go
        I cursed the gloom that set upon us…
        But I know that I love you so
        but I know that I love you so.
        These are the seasons of emotion
        And like the winds they rise and fall
        This is the wonder of devotion-
        I see the torch we all must hold.
        This is the mystery of the quotient-
        Upon us all a little rain
        must fall, Just a little rain?
        ooooh, yeah yeah yeah!

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      • August 16, 2015 7:35 pm

        Here is my boy!

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      • August 16, 2015 7:44 pm

        He’s fantastic, Steve!!

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      • August 16, 2015 7:46 pm

        Thank you! I think so too but I might be biased. 🙂

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 8:58 pm

        Your son does a very haunting rendition of the song, he sounds good.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 9:00 pm

        You know Laura, SDL, Steve and I have all done our top 10 groups on the Sunday open thread……???? hint, hint!

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      • August 16, 2015 9:16 pm

        Pink Floyd
        Lynyrd Skynyrd – Freebird is my third favorite song.
        Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
        Steve Miller Band
        Early Aerosmith


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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 10:16 pm

        No, that was too easy. You have to do one a week and post what you think about them AND some videos….you are not getting off this easy! 🙂

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      • August 16, 2015 10:21 pm

        Ohhhhhhhh…my apologies, I was unaware of the ‘rules’ lol.

        I’ll work on it. 🙂

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 10:27 pm

        Haha, merely “suggestions”! We don’t need no stinking rules!
        Just kidding, I liked seeing what others like in music, as everyone else does, I home. There was alot I had not heard before and I think it broadens our appreciation of songs and groups. Maybe we learn something along the way.
        So, with that said, would like to see your #10 next Sunday????
        Besides SDL started it!

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 16, 2015 10:29 pm

        That was “I hope”.geeze!

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      • August 17, 2015 5:54 am

        Thanks Lou!


      • August 17, 2015 5:55 am

        Yeah, that’s a great list Laura but you kind of took the suspense out of it! 😉

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  5. August 16, 2015 9:24 pm

    All Things Bright and Beautiful (John Rutter) – National Taiwan University Chorus
    (Bluebird of Bitterness’s Beautiful Music for Sunday) Just something nice to go along w/ the nice chatting!

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    • lou222 permalink
      August 16, 2015 10:19 pm

      At Christmas time at Millikin University here in town the students have Vespers concerts. There are different levels they sing from and at times have candles and are walking all around the audience. It is very pretty with their outfits and the sound quality in there is wonderful. They put on a kick butt performance that we try and catch each year. This reminds me of what they do.

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  6. August 16, 2015 10:47 pm

    Came across these videos a few years ago. Loved the performances so much I bought their DVD.

    Best for last…

    One of the things I really love is the so very obvious joy the singers/musicians show while performing these songs.


    • August 16, 2015 10:50 pm

      Well, I did something wrong, those are not the videos I wanted to post. Sorry.

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      • August 16, 2015 11:00 pm

        Trying again…

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 17, 2015 8:06 am

        Ha, you think you are the first one to post something 3 times? Well, maybe you are, but 2 times is normal.

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      • August 17, 2015 8:44 am

        I know what happened, lol. There are 71 videos in that upload, so no matter which video link I posted, the first video of the playlist would play. 🙂

        Our summer hasn’t been that hot. We’ve had a few steamy days, but overall we’ve had very pleasant weather.


      • lou222 permalink
        August 17, 2015 8:09 am

        This puts me in the mood for Christmas. I am so tired of the heat this year, there has just not been much of a break. Someone either posted here or I read somewhere else that the Farmers Almanac said we are in for a wetter and colder Winter. It sounds great now, but I might rethink it later in in the year.

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      • lou222 permalink
        August 17, 2015 10:31 am

        That sounds about right, Laura! I have had those with multiple videos, guess you have to watch them from coming up and play it thru yourself to the end to make sure it doesn’t start on another one. The ones I hate are after the video it will have 4 suggestions to watch and some are not very nice. Guess we will have that happen from time to time.

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    • August 17, 2015 12:45 pm

      The ‘Concepts’ one was interesting too Laura. We, around the world and even in the melting pot America, are different in many ways but we all have red blood flowing thru our veins. So, were very much the same in that regard!
      Some ‘full’ songs too. Certain music has a way to bring us up an out of the dark realities and lightens us, gives us a fresh perspective. And that goes w/ what that gal (the teacher stated), that it isn’t us who has everything in our hands or on our backs – rather ‘He has the whole kooky world’ in His hand and is in the process of ‘reclaiming’ it all under His Just & Loving Rulership! The ONLY Monarch who can do it fairly & rightly!

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  7. August 17, 2015 6:05 pm

    Even though it was an error, I’m glad you liked it, Zip. 🙂


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