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Hillary Clinton is being urged to challenge the election results

November 23, 2016

 You may remember how for years the Democrats have been saying there is no such thing as voter fraud and the only reason Republicans want voter ID is because they want to stifle the minority vote. You may also remember how when Donald Trump said he would not accept the results of the election if he thought there was voter fraud that he was a threat to our very democracy and he was dangerous and arrogant not to accept the will of the voters. 

  All of that, of course, was before the election and a funny thing happened on the way to Hillary Clinton’s coronation. It turns out the Democratic candidate lost the election and now suddenly we have to investigate voter fraud and Hillary Clinton is being urged to challenge the results of the election.

  Here is more:

Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.

  So now there is voter fraud, funny how that works…

  And the group has talked to John Podesta:

Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000.

  But they have no proof and of course it still comes back to Russia:

While it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.

  Apparently challenging the outcome of the election is only a threat to our democracy when Republicans threaten to do it and not when the Democrats actually begin to take the necessary steps to do it.

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30 Comments leave one →
  1. Brittius permalink
    November 23, 2016 6:52 am

    Reblogged this on Brittius.

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  2. petermac3 permalink
    November 23, 2016 7:17 am

    The red herring was the assertion that the Russians had set out to influence the election results through hacking. Whether or not this was proven it was believed in many quarters that Obama would invalidate the results should pant suit girl lose the election. So now that the big lie has not borne fruit the truth seekers they are, these left wing destroyers, move on to ploy number two. Stay tuned…

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    • November 23, 2016 2:20 pm

      Yep, they want to out right … or I mean left steal it!.
      Like Frankie in MN w/ the truck full of ballots or voting machines, they’re more sophisticated today, but the same MO – LIE, CHEAT, FRAUD, STEAL, KILL, MAIM, whatever it takes!
      Some say Trump’s family might be being threatened if he continues on. He already ‘pardoned’ Hell-ory.

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    • November 23, 2016 7:46 pm

      Yeah Peter it looks like they set this up before the election just in case…

      Liked by 1 person

  3. Dr. Jeff permalink
    November 23, 2016 3:45 pm

    Anything to destabilize our country. The media have bought their own narrative and are making a self fulfilling prophecy out of it.

    I’ve got a guess that Hillary will never want an actual fraud investigation into the voting – too much of her cheating would show up. That won’t stop the rhetoric.

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    • November 23, 2016 7:49 pm

      Yeah, maybe that’s it Dr. Jeff; just try to delegitimize Trump’s election for four years like they did with Bush in an effort to stop him in 2020.


  4. November 23, 2016 4:21 pm

    It’s only computer voting fraud when they lose!
    They’ll do whatever it takes and all they can to show ‘fraud’ – meaning construct it themselves.
    They’re vicious children of the serpent and lying political trollops with no regard to truth or integrity – that’s what they do.
    Some people need to be taken out before they go into murder mode! and causing the masses to attack each other.
    If those in positions of authority and power allow this to happen … well, American’s will have to take it into their own hands to restore the government. Is that why the PO and other agencies have ammo? or the stocks be bought up and hidden within the enemy gov.! Pre-planning.

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  5. November 23, 2016 9:37 pm

    Tossing this in too:
    ‘And then I said, “That’s not good enough for me. I think if you think this can’t happen, you still, still do not understand who we’re up against here.” So I said, “Would you please look at this and tell me, if it does happen, how?” And this is what they told me. The best analysis of the possibility here that I got is this, that, as currently believed, there aren’t enough electors who could legally change their votes to get Hillary to 270 electoral votes.
    However, an analysis shows that it is possible that some electors could be forced to change their votes and deny Trump from getting to 270 as well.
    And if that were to happen, the presidency would then go to the House of Representatives. They would decide it. Since the Republicans control the House of Representatives now and once the next term starts, then Trump would be elected. So I don’t think anything is going to change the result, but that doesn’t mean their effort isn’t gonna continue.’ Rush
    One columnist is saying it’s all over. The Stein’s backed enough (prob. Soros $$$) to steal the election. That the Dems (Hilly’s camp) brought in Stein to do the dirty work instead of Hell-o-really.
    If challenged like this and the electors fold, I can see American’s rising up and taking back the gov. themselves since those who are suppose to be protecting it aren’t. It’s really an invasion from within the anti-Americans.
    “The right of revolution is the right or duty of the people of a nation to overthrow a government that acts against their common interests and/or threatens the safety of the people without probable cause.” This is where we stand if it’s allow to change over from Trump. The stealers are gambling that people won’t fight them – target the heads – that it’s an easy win for the corrupt. Guess we’ll see. “Right and Duty”.

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    • November 25, 2016 8:16 am

      Interesting. I don’t see it happening but one never knows. Stein is now raising money to challenge three states but if it got changed at this time we would have a crisis on our hands. Of course this could be what Obama is waiting for…

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  6. November 23, 2016 11:59 pm

    The one blessing that they hadn’t counted on was PA going GOP. If it hadn’t Michigan was all set up.. One very bad thing about PA. There are no backups of the votes. The machines are electronic with no other form of verification. No paper. Much to be concerned about. I had trouble one year when I used the voting machine.

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    • November 25, 2016 7:00 am

      Bunker your about PA and a recount is a nightmare. Here is some info on a recount in PA

      “The most common way to get a vote recount in Pennsylvania is through an order by the Secretary of State, which is mandatory by law in statewide races decided by less than half a percentage point. THAT CAN’T HAPPEN IN THIS CASE.

      There are two other ways to get a vote recount. Voters can initiate a recount by having three voters from a voting district in question petition the county and ask for a recount. Coordinating that statewide would be nearly impossible. The third way, and the most likely in this case (if you can even called it “likely”), would be initiated by the candidate.

      A candidate can’t actually file for a vote recount under Pennsylvania law. Instead, they would have to challenge a county board regarding its vote computations, and a state appeals judge would have to rule that a statewide recount is necessary. That means the Clinton campaign would either have to request a recount by petition in every voting district or present a prima facie case showing voter fraud. (Prima facie is a lower threshold than beyond a reasonable doubt. A judge would just have to rule that fraud probably occurred in order to call for a recount.)”

      This all seems to be a huge hurtle, but if Stein et al can pull this off you know the fix is really in.

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    • November 25, 2016 8:17 am

      That’s odd Bunkerville, so you are saying they could change the vote after the fact during a recount and there is no backup of the original vote?


      • November 25, 2016 8:21 am

        None whatsoever in the machines I used. In fact the day I voted I was to pick out 4 candidates out of the 8 that were listed. All eight lighted up. In the city, in would have been easy to switch the machines to Dem in the primary.

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      • November 25, 2016 8:11 pm

        Just wait until we have online voting…


  7. November 24, 2016 11:59 pm

    Jill Stein “raised” the 7 million to start the recount in WI. So Stein has been bought by Soros and the Clintons. The recount will show Hillary is the winner. You don’t spend 7 million on a hope. The necessary precincts have had their votes manipulated already by paid operatives. Next onto MI and PA.

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    • November 25, 2016 8:20 am

      Yeah, I heard she was raising money to challenge the votes in three states. There is no way this little known canidate is raising this money on her own.


      • November 25, 2016 8:59 am

        Monday is supposedly the deadline for a recount in PA, but who knows given the complex recount rules in PA.

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      • November 25, 2016 9:11 am

        Also how does Stein demand a recount when she clearly lost? This recount request should be thrown out or blocked.


      • November 25, 2016 8:12 pm

        I was wondering about how Stein could demand a recount also, it seems like only Hillary should be allowed!


  8. November 25, 2016 8:38 pm

    As I understand it if you are willing to pay. They can find 70 k votes in Phila. My friends think I am crazy to think this, but there is zero way to recount unless you check each machine and see what it says. Lots of luck. Why the long delay in Michigan? Yep lots of tin foil.


    • November 26, 2016 10:03 am

      I think the thrust will be the absentee ballots. I’m sure there are ways to throw out a lot of these ballots.

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