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Rand Paul and Marco Rubio debate the NSA spying program and immigration

December 16, 2015

 Honestly for the most part I found last night’s debate to be pretty boring without much coming out of it that we did not already know. It was also way too long, no debate should be more than two hours in my opinion and I have to admit I went to bed after the two hour mark. 

  There were a couple of interesting moments however. The NSA data-mining program is a big issue with me because I believe it is a clear violation of the Constitution and a classic example of trading essential liberty for perceived security.

  Here is Rand Paul and Marco Rubio debating the NSA data-mining program with Rand Paul tying the whole thing into immigration as well.

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

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  1. sdmartin1981 permalink
    December 16, 2015 8:14 am

    It seems like Rand Paul is still stuck in his father’s shadow. He has a lot of really logical commonsense arguments yet he is marginalized and made a non-player. This plan sounds so much better than building a wall across the Mexican border, yet Trump and his bad haircut are the front runners and and Paul and his bad haircut are left sulking in the periphery.

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    • December 16, 2015 7:49 pm

      I agree, I think Rand is hurt by his father because people equate the two and Ron was marginalized by the establishment and it hurts Rand. It is too bad because Paul is the only one who even mentioned the Constitution last night I think. Cruz might have once but I do not remember for sure.

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  2. December 16, 2015 1:13 pm

    I prefer Rand, BUT ‘Why’ does he still supports the 911LIE – not being an inside job – is verybothersome. Improving boarder protection would require kicking out those in leadership positions who are terrorist puppets (chess pieces) for the world running masters. Marco is salivating to be a top puppet to get the perks of everything a sinful heart/soul desires (all his dreams come true). Some say he’s up to be the VP, which will be close enough for him, only one person to take out to be king.

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    • December 16, 2015 1:17 pm

      Oops, over-boarded the italics (forgot the cutoff code!) … Laura would not approve of that! Back to school I go! 😊

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      • December 16, 2015 6:32 pm

        Oh, Zip, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve done that!!! Fortunately, most times it was on Discus which has an ‘edit’ button and I’ve been able to fix my mistake. 🙂

        I also take a very long time composing my comments. I read, re-read, and re-read, and re-read. Then I double-check right before I hit ‘post comment’ to make sure everything is right. I am a spelling and grammar nazi to myself.

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      • December 16, 2015 7:35 pm

        Hah, hah! You make me laugh Laura! I like that ‘edit’ button on Discus too! I should send my comments to you first – get the fine tuning – then post it! 😊 I’ve notice that within this past year that I have to do all the proof reading more and more, it’s like my fingers aren’t connected to my brain anymore! I think the Chemtrail Sprays are clogging up my thinking apparatus! Maybe that’s what’s going on with yours too! If we didn’t ‘care’ or know ‘any better’ we wouldn’t go thru this, but alas … at least we still are cognizant enough to ‘try’!! You’re the one who go me going with using coding recently, so ‘Steve’ it’s Laura’s fault! I’m not as diligent as she and a great burden has been placed on me to measure up – get it right! and so on. …
        Laura, I did pass along the good points you listed about Cruz to another alternative news utuber – so impressed was I – I really appreciate your sharing that info ( I didn’t know his wife’s name, much less that she worked for the Illuminati (Sachs/CFR)! I don’t keep up with all that, so THANKS! … oh, I mean THANKS 🤓
        A bit OT but goes w/ the point of the loss of mental faculties!:

        Another reason we have to work together! to keep from slipping up too much!

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      • December 16, 2015 8:09 pm

        Zip, thank you!! You make me feel good and make me smile!!

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      • December 16, 2015 8:51 pm


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    • December 16, 2015 7:51 pm

      Rand is my guy because he is the only one who talks about the Constitution and in my opinion he actually understands it unlike many of the others who only give it lip service when it suits them.
      I don’t even know the code for italics or bold, WordPress does it for me when I post, that is why I don’t use them in the comments. I am blushing at my ignorance…

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      • December 16, 2015 7:58 pm

        Hah, IF that darn Laura wouldn’t out-do us like that Steve we would’ve never known!
        I do like Rand too, I just wish he wouldn’t promote the lie system! of these false flags. If he’s ignorant to them, then he needs education – he probably knows what went on but doesn’t want to open the ugly door of truth, esp. when most naive americans believe the Gov. lie and are satisfied w/ it. Don’t confuse us with the truth or the facts! p.s. I’m sure Laura will teach us simple coding if we ask nicely!

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      • December 16, 2015 8:03 pm

        I’m going to insert spaces, but when you actually use them there are no spaces.

        For bold: to begin, to end.

        For italics: to begin, to end.

        If I wanted to bold the word yes, I would type yes – remember to remove all spaces. Yes!

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      • December 16, 2015 8:05 pm

        Oh no!!! Inserting spaces didn’t work! Hahahahahahahahaha…..

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      • December 16, 2015 8:20 pm

        Zip, bringing up 9/11 is part of what brought his father down so I think Rand probably is trying to distance himself from his father on that issue but that is just a guess.
        Laura, now I am even more confused then before… 😉

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      • December 16, 2015 9:07 pm

        hee, hee LOL’s … I know Steve … I tell you that Laura is out to boggle us even more than we already are … I don’t know how much my fragile mind can handle!! Too funny Laura! what you tried to show us …! I had a question mark above my head! 😊
        Steve I know what you mean about his dad and distancing himself to a point. I happen to like what his dad says too, may have to dig into more of what he’s saying these days. Those are two who would be left in the Pro-American Gov. if all the anti-americans were shipped out!

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      • December 16, 2015 9:30 pm

        I liked Ron Paul as well but I think the truth is that most Americans think he was nutty because they have been indoctrinated into the system and they are unwilling to believe the government might not have our best interests at heart.

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