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Republican debate open thread

January 14, 2016

  I have to be perfectly honest with you here; I am not going to watch the debate tonight because I have better things to do. Namely, The Blacklist is on and I will be watching to see what happens to Lizzy, Red Reddington, the shadow government and the Cabal.

  But here is an open thread so if you would like to comment on the debate as it happens this is the place to do so. If anything interesting happens I will read about it tomorrow.

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  1. January 15, 2016 12:01 am

    Yeah Steve let’s talk more ‘reality’ … The Blacklist!

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    • January 15, 2016 6:23 am

      Yeah, we probably saw something closer to the truth last night with The Blacklist!

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      • January 15, 2016 12:42 pm

        Plus, the fact that when one of the bad guys get caught, he’s on his own. You could tell by Red’s expression about ‘dropping him down in time for dinner’ wasn’t being caught by the director (his puffed up pride blinded him from the reality of the day – similar to the political meat market).

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      • January 15, 2016 8:04 pm

        That’s right, they always abandon their own when it comes time to save themselves. The director’s arrogance is what did him in, he thought he was untouchable but when push came to shove he was expendable!

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      • January 16, 2016 4:24 pm

        He learned the push, shove … right out of the jet door!
        * Steve how’d Laura? Missing her Braharhar.

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  2. January 15, 2016 3:10 am

    lol The Blacklist…. Cabaly Clinton and all the joyfull lot ..
    Does it make a difference ?

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    • January 15, 2016 6:29 am

      That was good, thanks for sharing it and you are right, what difference does it make?

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    • lou222 permalink
      January 15, 2016 9:29 am

      Love this program….James Spader gets better looking as he ages! Now, why would I say that? Of course I also think Sean Connery and of course SAM ELLIOT are aging wonderfully, as well.

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      • January 15, 2016 1:46 pm

        Yep, it’s as though that part was ‘written’ for him Lou. No one else could do it as fittingly! He’s got the voice, manner and look.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 3:48 pm

        Yep, he is perfect!

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      • January 15, 2016 8:06 pm

        Yes, James Spader is the perfect actor to play this part. As for Sam Elliot and James Spader’s looks, they are not quite my cup of tea if you catch my drift. 🙂

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:08 pm

        Ya, well, I like them, didn’t expect you to see it from MY advantage point!

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      • January 15, 2016 8:41 pm

        LOL!

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      • January 16, 2016 9:15 pm

        Neither of them are Brad Pitt! 😉

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    • January 15, 2016 2:05 pm

      Hey Swiss. Good clip. Interesting though that a guy’s singing the tune and not a female – today in this society that’s bent on creating whores and homos it’s nice to see a man be a man (Red) and a women be glad because of it! A virtuous women … who can find one in this new age? http://thekingsbible.com/BibleText.aspx?bibleid=20031010
      Esp. when that higher QUALITY is being portrayed as ‘out of date’ and old fashion, primitive. It’s easier to let the carnal out than have dominion over it.

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      • January 15, 2016 8:07 pm

        I have to admit I never heard this song before this morning but SDL’s version was stuck in my head all morning!

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      • January 15, 2016 8:14 pm

        The Blacklist does, I think, play some neat music. It’s a quality show. I didn’t think about the song right off – ‘oh that’s nice’ – then started thinking, ‘shouldn’t a female be singing that?’

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      • January 15, 2016 8:20 pm

        I love the music in the show as well, the song should be song by a woman but I still found it to be catchy. Perhaps they are indoctrinating me! I won’t let them get me! 😉

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      • January 15, 2016 9:22 pm

        That’s what I was thinking too Steve … they’re out to get you!😊Although the master of music, leader of it in Heaven was Lucifer before he fell. So, he just continues on here subtly luring in the innocent! Some is more obvious than others! Lauri wouldn’t want you to flip either!!!

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      • January 16, 2016 6:17 am

        Well, I’m not the kind who care what people do in their bedroom ; but I agree with you about decadence and promiscuity, I’m no prude and like Beauty. (the beauty and the breasts if i may)
        Nothing new under the sun..

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      • January 16, 2016 8:09 am

        Music can definitely be used to change a mood and the lyrics can be used to indoctrinate the people as we have talked about before but I don’t think Lauri has to worry about me flipping! 🙂

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      • January 16, 2016 11:59 am

        Haha. I didn’t thing she had a concern there Steve, I’m glad you stated it out!

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      • January 16, 2016 8:59 am

        Zip I’ve been kicked out from a Christian WP Site with this video…
        The Subject why male are not so male anymore …and I wrote Let Boys be Boys …and not full their mind that everything is sins ..sin to become a man..

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      • January 16, 2016 12:06 pm

        Yes Swiss, just another way to bring down a country, just like what happened to God’s formed Israel – they started worshipping the pagan gods, turning away from God, and ended up naked, dancing and debased. Men & women without God aren’t men & women.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 16, 2016 12:05 pm

        SDL, it is all in the eyes of the beholder, we make of it what we will.

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      • January 16, 2016 12:41 pm

        😉

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      • January 16, 2016 12:51 pm

        Sexuality, explicated pics and background music all used to lure in the lusts of the flesh and promote hip porn. Professionally done!

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      • January 16, 2016 1:41 pm

        ZIP. May be we differ here, and I’m sory if it does. But Sexuality is not bad (between a man and a woman) otherwise it is bestality or some sort.
        But Sexuality is a wonderfull thing that bind in a particular way and to follow your mind…. it bring children…No sexuality, no children.. no society…
        And it is what’s happening… as we need them..they are somehow our Future

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      • January 16, 2016 4:21 pm

        I agree Swiss – God made it for a reason! Hosea learned all about that and how it related in the spiritual realm! He could relate w/ what’s considered ‘okay’ today!

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    • petermc3 permalink
      January 15, 2016 3:02 pm

      Belle Starr (females) also does a great cover of Jolene. While I am a hardcore country music fan I don’t care for Dolly Parton’s version.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 16, 2016 12:10 pm

        The country that I like listening to is the “classic” stuff….the new country is not all that great and alot of them sound alike. Guess I like the “classic” in most music…give me stuff I can understand the words in.

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      • January 16, 2016 12:10 pm

        Here you go Peter. The sounds not the best (live) but I’ll add it to the list.

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  3. lou222 permalink
    January 15, 2016 9:30 am

    I did NOT watch the debate last night, so I am relying on those here to put in their opinions of what happened. I did read this and found it interesting….not sure if anyone goes to this website:

    http://dcwhispers.com/bill-clinton-tells-associates-this-could-be-very-bad-for-us/

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    • January 15, 2016 8:10 pm

      Good for you Lou, I trust you watched The Blacklist last night and if so good choice! Thanks for the link, for some reason the idea of Bill Clinton suffering bouts of depression over this FBI investigation brings a smile to my face. I know it is wrong but I cannot help it!

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    • petermc3 permalink
      January 16, 2016 12:18 pm

      Lou,
      Real country is no longer marketable. The trash passed off today is merely rock with a steel guitar.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 16, 2016 12:20 pm

        There are a very few singers today that have the classic feel to them, but on the whole not. It is like cheap perfume, they all smell alike, no matter what one you spray….so, I stick with the tried and true classic scents…stuck in my ways, I guess, Peter and that is sometimes NOT a bad thing.

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  4. petermc3 permalink
    January 15, 2016 9:51 am

    I gave it a ten; it had a good beat and you could dance to it. Actually other than Roger Ailes bitch Neil Cavuto failing at trying to play devil’s advocate the debate wasn’t bad. This fat little teletubby should take a long walk off a short pier and give up his one man act at portraying a tele- journalist financial expert. Next to the real deal, Marie Bartiromo, he was the drooling Pancho to her Cisco.

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    • lou222 permalink
      January 15, 2016 11:15 am

      I do like Bartiromo, glad to hear she was professional! Ok, are you being sarcastic? Not sure what gave me the idea, maybe the good beat and dancing???? Was it a 10 or did it suck like most of the debates? Tell me the real scoop, Peter.

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      • petermc3 permalink
        January 15, 2016 1:02 pm

        Sorry Lou the sarcasm is like a waterfall, it can’t be shut off. But yes the debate was probably the best yet even with the anointed one Jeb still hanging around.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 3:48 pm

        Just wanted to make sure, was 99.97% sure it was, but thought it best to ask! You could have a .03% chance of being serious, haha!

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    • January 15, 2016 8:13 pm

      It sounds like there were some interesting exchanges but I still have not really listened to them, I have a problem with the fact that the only candidate I believe actually understands the Constitution was not there while Kasich was somehow invited.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 16, 2016 3:13 pm

        Are you talking about Rand Paul? Did he do the 2nd tier debate or sit it out like he said he would?

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  5. lou222 permalink
    January 15, 2016 3:55 pm

    OT: I have mentioned before my dislike of clowns, but have I mentioned that I am not a big fan of porcelain dolls that have human hair and movable eyes and TEETH? Maybe I saw “Chuckie” one too many times or another movie that the name escapes me that had a shit load of those dolls in it, but I do NOT like them!
    My husband brought home a doll from his Moms house that sat on her headboard (I was told it was from his grandmothers house), his sisters wanted nothing to do with her and she came home with him in a plastic bag….she was in my livingroom until I opened the bag…..she is NOW out in the garage and has to get thru 2 doors with alarm sensors on them if SHE wants to get in the house. I mentioned it to my sister-in-law and she said we will “take care of her” when she comes by….whatever do you think that means?

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    • January 15, 2016 8:15 pm

      How about the clown from the movie Poltergeist, it kind of combines the two:
      https://www.google.com/search?q=poltergeist+clown+doll&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=609&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP34nVhq3KAhXLWz4KHWyqAhkQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=UnEeNty6_0duuM%3A

      Sorry!

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:20 pm

        Ok, I just had to click on your link, thank you very MUCH! Now I really have to make sure the basement door is closed and the alarm system is on and the shotgun is loaded. Damn those clowns anyway! Sneaky and ugly little bastids, all of them.
        As for the dolls, cannot trust them any more than the clowns! Will have to call the alarm company and see if they have any clown/doll sensors now.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:31 pm

        You know I had one of these dolls growing up:http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M079223185f17cca192ce6f2ae45130dao2&w=189&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
        I wonder if that is part of my problem? And, it was my parents that got it….I did not play with her, she sat on the shelf, i hated dolls.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:33 pm

        By the way that evil doll is CHATTY CATHY!

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:35 pm

        Tell me this one is not evil!

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      • January 15, 2016 8:43 pm

        If you have not seen Poltergeist the scene with the clown doll is very freaky! I did apologize for posting the pic. 🙂
        And yes those dolls are very creepy!

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:54 pm

        Oh, ok, the “SORRY” was your apology up front, huh? Well,I suppose I will have to accept it.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 16, 2016 3:17 pm

        The one with the pink eyes sort of reminds me of the movie “Children of the Corn”, or at least somewhat, they did not have pink eyes, but you get what I am saying?

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  6. Dr. Jeff permalink
    January 15, 2016 4:48 pm

    it wasn’t a debate, it was a love fest. The “debate” as it were was more about defining the Republican 2016 platform and the makeup of the next GOP administration.

    Jeb Bush, who knows he won’t win, was the most engaged and animated I’ve seen him in any debate. He impressed me with his statements about Hilary and the need for Republicans to act together after the convention.

    Trump and Cruz are setting up to do a Bush/Cheney act. Chris Christy can’t decide if he wants to be Secretary of Defense or Attorney General. Kasich and Rubio are also lining up for slots in the next admin.

    Dr. Carson continues to be a quiet and considered moral center. It would be important to find a good place for him as well.

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    • lou222 permalink
      January 15, 2016 5:54 pm

      Dr. J., it doesn’t surprise me that Jeb is now being more animated. Do you think maybe he really did not want the Presidency and now he can take a breath and maybe do something else? For some reason, I have wondered if he had not just been pushed to do it and how could he back away from it since he is a BUSH? Just a thought. I do not know what to think about Trump and Cruz, maybe they are sparing back and forth for entertainment…I could see the 2 on the same ticket. Not a fan of Christy and really not a fan of Kasich AT ALL! Rubio is young, but intelligent. Carson has good morals and there should be a place for him in the Administration. I would also like to see Rubio put somewhere, but not crazy about him because of his stance on immigration or rather illegal-immigration.
      You did a GOOD job on your analysis, thanks for sharing it! At least I did not have to watch the debate!

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      • Dr. Jeff permalink
        January 15, 2016 6:38 pm

        Thank you, Lou. I have never been able to understand why so many pundits do not see the obvious. This last debate wasn’t a debate except in the strictest sense. Except for Trump and Cruz, it was obvious that no one else believed they had a shot at the nomination and behaved accordingly.

        It was refreshing to see people like Jeb Bush actually speak from their heart and not the political script.

        Trump and Cruz engaged in what I’ll call a bromance, complete with some modest sniping, but nothing mean, no real zingers.

        We’ve got a real election coming, complete with some very good players. The Liberals are clueless, so it’s up to us to make it happen.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 6:49 pm

        I hope people see it as you do! Yes, there are some good players and we are in the fight for our Country, I hope others understand that, as well.
        As for Bush, I think he is resigned to the fact that he is NOT in a position to win and maybe now can say what he wants and not what his handlers want him to say. I would really hate to be told what to say and do all the time. Guess that is what I like about Trump, he doesn’t weigh the odds as to if something that will come out of his mouth is politically correct or not…he goes with the flow and the chips fall where the may…I like that in a person!
        Oh, and you are welcome!

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      • January 15, 2016 8:46 pm

        That’s interesting Dr. Jeff because I thought Cruz and Trump would come out swinging at each other, perhaps they have struck some kind of deal in regards to the VP.

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    • petermc3 permalink
      January 15, 2016 7:24 pm

      Agreed Dr J. For lack of a better word we are left to call these quilting bee’s debates. 😎

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    • January 15, 2016 8:18 pm

      That is an interesting take Dr. Jeff! It seems like they all might have been trying to position themselves for cabinet positions. I still have not watched any of it and I don’t think I will. I have already decided who I am going to vote for in a few weeks and nothing is going to change my mind at this point.

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      • lou222 permalink
        January 15, 2016 8:27 pm

        I think it boils down to 2 or 3, at best….I think too, that the others are going to want to be in the Administration, so the “name calling” is probably going to stop and they are going to start trying to get along. There are alot of them that should have bowed out a long time ago…not even sure why there WAS a second group of candidates for a debate….their numbers were so very low. It was a waste of time. I think there should be a percentage that if they go under, they are automatically taken out of the race…would be simpler that way.

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      • January 15, 2016 8:47 pm

        Yes Lou, at some point the name-calling has to stop because the losers will have to endorse the winner and if they go out of their way to tear down the eventual winner it will make their endorsement seem disingenuous and hypocritical.

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    • January 16, 2016 12:18 pm

      Thanks for wrapping it up nicely for us Dr. Jeff. If we didn’t have the shadow gov. this group might be able to do something!
      In the meantime here’s a message for those around the world who think the leaders of ‘the United Corporation USA’ represent us:

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  7. Dr. Jeff permalink
    January 15, 2016 10:29 pm

    One thing though, Cruz gave a very poor and inaccurate response on the issue of his qualification as a “natural born citizen”.

    I spent a while looking it up. The real issue is that the Federal law on the point says that if you’re born abroad, your parents are married and either one is a citizen, then you are an American citizen by birth.

    It does NOT specify whether you are “natural” born or not, it just says that you are born an American citizen. The original language of the Constitution specifies that if you’re born in the U.S., you’re a “natural” born citizen, but it’s not directly addressed in either the 14th Amendment or the Federal statutes.

    A common sense reading of the Constitution, Amendments and applicable Federal law would make him a “natural born” citizen, but that might not be technically accurate.

    The law can also be interpreted to have 3 classes of citizen: 1) Natural Born Citizen; 2) Born Citizen; 3) Naturalized Citizen, with the only difference being that only a natural born citizen can be President or VP.

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  8. Dr. Jeff permalink
    January 15, 2016 10:37 pm

    Here’s a link to the exchange about Cruz’s citizenship.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/14/cruz_vs_trump_over_natural_birth_under_your_theory_you_would_be_disqualified_from_running_for_president.html

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    • January 16, 2016 8:18 am

      That was a great answer by Cruz!

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