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United States Guns Are NOT Being Used in Violent Crimes in Mexico (The Lie Exposed)

April 3, 2009

  The recent uptick in violence at the Mexican border is going to be used as a conduit for the United States government to begin establishing strict gun control laws. This is going to be just the excuse that the biggest enemy to the second amendment ever to hold the White House was looking for to implement his usurpation of the constitution.

  Every time that we hear a politician talk about the violence in Mexico and along the border we inevitably hear about the fact that the criminals are smuggling the guns into Mexico from the United States.

  The anti-gun politicians like to say that 90% of the guns used in crimes in Mexico and along the border were purchased in the United States. That is an outright lie. It is fuzzy math and it is being used as the beginning arguments by gun control advocates.

  The 90% number is a real number but it is being out of context. As the linked article points out; 90% of the guns sent to the ATF to be traced did in fact originate in the United States, but  68% of the guns recovered at crime scenes were not sent to the ATF for tracing.  Most of these guns were not sent to the ATF for tracing because it was evident by their markings that they did not come from the United States. There was no need for the United States to trace them.

   That means the percentage of weapons recovered at Mexican crime scenes that were traced back to the United States was 17%, in other words 83% of weapons recovered at Mexican crime scenes were not traceable to the United States. A reversal of nearly 180 degrees.

  On a side note; another interesting fact is that of the 17% of the guns that were traced back to the United States, many  were legally sold by Colt to the Mexican government for issue to the Mexican military. Perhaps we would be better served to investigate how weapons sold to the Mexican military ended up in the hands of the drug cartel.

  Here are the numbers quoted in the article:

In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

  This whole notion that it is the United States’ fault that criminals in Mexico are killing people is bullshit. This is a lie being propagated by the anti-gun crowd, activists and politicians, and it is probably being done at the behest of the president. He is all too willing to let the lie unfurl and grow because he wants an excuse to implement radical gun control laws.

  The president wants people to see the Mexican violence and he wants us to think that we are to blame, he wants us to say “we have to do something.” And then he will swoop in and infringe upon our second amendment rights.

  The law abiding citizens of this country will have to suffer because the government will not enforce the laws that we already have. The law abiding citizen will have to suffer because Mexico won’t enforce the laws that it has. The law abiding citizens will have to suffer because we won’t prosecute the criminals who actually are committing the crimes. We are being politically prosecuted while the criminals walk free.

  The gun control advocates are pointing to the fact that 90% of the traced guns came from the United States while at the same time ignoring the fact that another 68% of the guns were not traced at all because it was known they didn’t come from the United States. At best this lie is dishonest, at worst it is criminal.

  In their desperation to find an issue that can be used to write new gun laws they have found an issue they hope will find them sympathy and they have twisted the numbers around. How they reach their goal doesn’t matter to them, as long as they reach it.

  The lie has been exposed.

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38 Comments leave one →
  1. Deb permalink
    April 3, 2009 9:09 pm



  2. Lefty permalink
    April 4, 2009 5:31 pm

    It’s really interesting that the second amendment is the only one you fascists are interested in protecting. What does that say about you that you are more worried about keeping your ak47, then your right to free speech, your right to protest, your right to dissent? It means you are a violent moron.


    • April 5, 2009 5:20 am

      It is evident that this is the only post that you have read here. I have written about the attacks on free speech and the fairness doctrine many, many times. I have also written about the intimidation that television and radio stations faced when running ads critical of Obama during the campaign.
      I will be protesting on April 15th, I have no problem with that right. I denfend every right when I see it attacked.
      But seeing how you called me a fascist I though we should take a look at the definition, I am sure you never have:

      A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

      That sound more like our president to me. He is using class warfare to divide the people, and he is taking over private industies. Censorship has been in the works for years only we call it being “politically correct.”


      • April 5, 2009 11:04 pm

        I would like to point out that the definition of fascism also fits the previous administration. From my point of view, this is all two sides of the same coin.


    • January 18, 2013 12:01 am

      The 2nd amendment guarentees all the rest you idiot.


  3. Deb permalink
    April 5, 2009 3:36 pm

    Fascism is way over to the left with communism, moron. If you want to insult a right winger, call them anarchist.


    • April 5, 2009 11:12 pm

      Fascism can happen through the right wing. The paths might be different but the results are the same.


  4. April 9, 2009 3:12 am

    Looks like you had some heated exchanges above. The left does have a way of distorting the gun issue. They always see the gun and not the criminal commiting the acts–its sad. I recently posted on this at my site you may want to check it out as it is a personal account of events in my life relating to guns and news bias. “Guns and the Lefts Distortions”.


    • April 9, 2009 5:50 am

      I will check it out. The left sees the criminals as victims of some kind. A bad childhood or whatever and they feel that it isn’t the criminal’s fault.


  5. January 24, 2015 4:26 pm

    It’s the drug demand in the US that is the root. Forget about the guns.

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